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We have all the knowledge, and even a special government branch in place here to fight the sea, I am sure we'll be fine

by TT-392 5y ago

TT-392 5y ago
Or, fine, may not be the right word, more like, a lot better off than a lot of other countries.
TaylorAlexander 5y ago
> a special government branch in place here to fight the sea Ah that ought to do it.
- whoisburbansky 5y ago
  I mean it’s been working pretty well so far, it would seem.
  - Fnoord 5y ago
    Except floods do happen, and are going to happpen more due to global warming, and the prognosis is that half the country is under water by 2100 (I live about -5 NAP myself).
    - kortilla 5y ago
      Right, but the Dutch are probably the best poised to deal with it because it has been happening long before global climate change.
      - Fnoord 5y ago
        This one is a different beast. Our governments have been ignoring it until now (new government in 2022) but I doubt its going to be enough, we cannot deal with this problem on a national level. If a country like China slacks with this, we get hosed.
        kortilla 5y ago
        Not really. I’m saying the Dutch are probably the best prepared to deal with the worst case of continuing climate change at the current rate (assuming China, India, US don’t do anything).
- eCa 5y ago
  Unless you're being facetious, you might want to read up on things like the Delta Works[1], the Zuidersee Works[2] or the smaller project of Maeslantkering[3]. If there's one country that has had long experience in dealing with the threat from the oceans, it's the Netherlands. And these kinds of projects don't really lend themselves to organizations that require profit for their investments. (I'm not dutch, but I have biked across the 32 km long causeway of Afsluitdijk[4] and parts of the Delta Works.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuiderzee_Works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuiderzee_Works [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maeslantkering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maeslantkering [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afsluitdijk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afsluitdijk
  - TaylorAlexander 5y ago
    Mostly it’s just kind of funny because “fight the sea” is sometimes used as a metaphor for futility. And also climate change and sea level rise is a global problem. I do know the Dutch have a lot of experience with this, the phrasing just came off as funny. And I am not under the impression a for profit org would do any better. I just think fighting the sea is going to get very hard by 2100.

We have all the knowledge, and even a special government branch in place here to fight the sea, I am sure we'll be fine

by TT-392 5y ago

We have all the knowledge, and even a special government branch in place here to fight the sea, I am sure we'll be fine

TT-392 5y ago

Or, fine, may not be the right word, more like, a lot better off than a lot of other countries.

TaylorAlexander 5y ago

> a special government branch in place here to fight the sea Ah that ought to do it.

whoisburbansky 5y ago
I mean it’s been working pretty well so far, it would seem.
- Fnoord 5y ago
  Except floods do happen, and are going to happpen more due to global warming, and the prognosis is that half the country is under water by 2100 (I live about -5 NAP myself).
  - kortilla 5y ago
    Right, but the Dutch are probably the best poised to deal with it because it has been happening long before global climate change.
    - Fnoord 5y ago
      This one is a different beast. Our governments have been ignoring it until now (new government in 2022) but I doubt its going to be enough, we cannot deal with this problem on a national level. If a country like China slacks with this, we get hosed.
      - kortilla 5y ago
        Not really. I’m saying the Dutch are probably the best prepared to deal with the worst case of continuing climate change at the current rate (assuming China, India, US don’t do anything).
eCa 5y ago
Unless you're being facetious, you might want to read up on things like the Delta Works[1], the Zuidersee Works[2] or the smaller project of Maeslantkering[3]. If there's one country that has had long experience in dealing with the threat from the oceans, it's the Netherlands. And these kinds of projects don't really lend themselves to organizations that require profit for their investments. (I'm not dutch, but I have biked across the 32 km long causeway of Afsluitdijk[4] and parts of the Delta Works.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuiderzee_Works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuiderzee_Works [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maeslantkering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maeslantkering [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afsluitdijk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afsluitdijk
- TaylorAlexander 5y ago
  Mostly it’s just kind of funny because “fight the sea” is sometimes used as a metaphor for futility. And also climate change and sea level rise is a global problem. I do know the Dutch have a lot of experience with this, the phrasing just came off as funny. And I am not under the impression a for profit org would do any better. I just think fighting the sea is going to get very hard by 2100.