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Nice false equivalence. Lawyer: duty-bound professional, is an officer of the court, can be publicly disbarred, very expensive degree that needs to be paid off

Nice false equivalence. Lawyer: duty-bound professional, is an officer of the court, can be publicly disbarred, very expensive degree that needs to be paid off Some guy on the internet with an axe to grind: ???

dgfitz 5y ago
I believe in California you only need to pass the bar to become a lawyer, no expensive degree required.
- Spooky23 5y ago
  I’m sure both of the attorneys who have done an apprenticeship are happy about that.
  - dgfitz 5y ago
    The happiness of lawyers is something I am quite happy to not care about. :)
- SkittyDog 5y ago
  You're all missing the point... ANYbody with a Lexis Nexus subscription, or a Bloomberg terminal, or one of those background check sites, already has this exact capability. It's not new. You dont need to be a lawyer to access any of it... I think the other poster simply meant that lawyers generally have Lexis subscriptions, already. Also, the various court databases this site is searching are ALREADY online and publicly available, and have been for years. This is just providing a free, unified interface with a fast search index.
  - alangibson 5y ago
    > This is just providing a free, unified interface with a fast search index. Yes, and that is a phase change difference. It's not a trivial enhancement.
    - SkittyDog 5y ago
      So you think the $10/month fee for existing services is what induced the phase change? I've done hundreds of these searches, paid maybe $20 total. I have a different theory about why this bugs you... Previous to today, you were ignorant of that these records were available online so cheaply and quickly. Nothing has really changed, except your own anxiety levels as your worldview struggles to absorb this information. But your brain wants the change to be external, because that's less threatening than the realization that this capability has been lurking out there in the world, all along.
      - alangibson 5y ago
        Ha! It bugs me for exactly the reasons I stated above.
  - ghaff 5y ago
    At some level I get the angst about typing someone's name, especially if it's fairly unusual, and getting back a whole lot of information about, in this case, mostly legal-related stuff and in others past addresses, things they've written etc. for free. (And, if you know something about them you can probably sift the returns somewhat effectively.) You may be able to find out a lot about your date, your neighbor, etc. On the other hand, outside of casually checking out someone, the reality is that this has long been available for anyone want to spend a very few bucks to do so.
- thaumasiotes 5y ago
  That does not appear to be correct. You can see the requirements to be admitted to the California Bar here: https://www.calbar.ca.gov/admissions/requirements https://www.calbar.ca.gov/admissions/requirements Note in particular the education requirement: > Here are all the options: > - Three or four years of study at a law school accredited by the American Bar Association > - Four years of study at a State Bar-registered, fixed-facility law school > - Four years of study with a minimum of 864 hours of preparation at a registered unaccredited distance-learning or correspondence law school > - Four years of study under the supervision of a state judge or attorney > - A combination of these programs If all you've done is pass the bar exam, you can go to hell. It may not even be possible; the requirements for the California exam are behind a login wall, but other states have restricted eligibility to take the exam based on the testee's education. I assume they didn't want to be embarrassed by having the wrong sort of person pass the bar.
  - dgfitz 5y ago
    I stand corrected.
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dgfitz 5y ago

I believe in California you only need to pass the bar to become a lawyer, no expensive degree required.

Spooky23 5y ago
I’m sure both of the attorneys who have done an apprenticeship are happy about that.
- dgfitz 5y ago
  The happiness of lawyers is something I am quite happy to not care about. :)
SkittyDog 5y ago
You're all missing the point... ANYbody with a Lexis Nexus subscription, or a Bloomberg terminal, or one of those background check sites, already has this exact capability. It's not new. You dont need to be a lawyer to access any of it... I think the other poster simply meant that lawyers generally have Lexis subscriptions, already. Also, the various court databases this site is searching are ALREADY online and publicly available, and have been for years. This is just providing a free, unified interface with a fast search index.
- alangibson 5y ago
  > This is just providing a free, unified interface with a fast search index. Yes, and that is a phase change difference. It's not a trivial enhancement.
  - SkittyDog 5y ago
    So you think the $10/month fee for existing services is what induced the phase change? I've done hundreds of these searches, paid maybe $20 total. I have a different theory about why this bugs you... Previous to today, you were ignorant of that these records were available online so cheaply and quickly. Nothing has really changed, except your own anxiety levels as your worldview struggles to absorb this information. But your brain wants the change to be external, because that's less threatening than the realization that this capability has been lurking out there in the world, all along.
    - alangibson 5y ago
      Ha! It bugs me for exactly the reasons I stated above.
- ghaff 5y ago
  At some level I get the angst about typing someone's name, especially if it's fairly unusual, and getting back a whole lot of information about, in this case, mostly legal-related stuff and in others past addresses, things they've written etc. for free. (And, if you know something about them you can probably sift the returns somewhat effectively.) You may be able to find out a lot about your date, your neighbor, etc. On the other hand, outside of casually checking out someone, the reality is that this has long been available for anyone want to spend a very few bucks to do so.
thaumasiotes 5y ago
That does not appear to be correct. You can see the requirements to be admitted to the California Bar here: https://www.calbar.ca.gov/admissions/requirements https://www.calbar.ca.gov/admissions/requirements Note in particular the education requirement: > Here are all the options: > - Three or four years of study at a law school accredited by the American Bar Association > - Four years of study at a State Bar-registered, fixed-facility law school > - Four years of study with a minimum of 864 hours of preparation at a registered unaccredited distance-learning or correspondence law school > - Four years of study under the supervision of a state judge or attorney > - A combination of these programs If all you've done is pass the bar exam, you can go to hell. It may not even be possible; the requirements for the California exam are behind a login wall, but other states have restricted eligibility to take the exam based on the testee's education. I assume they didn't want to be embarrassed by having the wrong sort of person pass the bar.
- dgfitz 5y ago
  I stand corrected.

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