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Lol, calm down buddy, drink a glass of water. I dislike Microsoft quite a bit, despise ads, and pay or block to minimize my exposure to them. But believe it or

Lol, calm down buddy, drink a glass of water. I dislike Microsoft quite a bit, despise ads, and pay or block to minimize my exposure to them. But believe it or not, not everyone is simple-minded enough to think that it's impossible to be incorrect as long as you're rooting for the right "side". There's a group of people (let's call them "adults") who are capable of discussing reality in more detail than "hurr durr ads bad". The claim I responded to was that the choice of ad format was a new dark pattern, which is a specific claim that's independent of your feelings about ads overall.

inopinatus 5y ago
I have said nothing about feelings, nor included an opinion about ads in general. For someone this supercilious, you sure make a lot of bad assumptions en route. The only person to have used the phrase “new dark pattern”, by the way, is you. So if you want to argue whether it’s new or not, go right ahead: you’re just arguing with yourself. If you want to argue it’s not a dark pattern, then good luck on the next zebra crossing. I’m not your “buddy”, either.
- wutbrodo 5y ago
  > The only person to have used the phrase “new dark pattern”, by the way, is you. From the comment I responded to: "Add this to the list of dark patterns". (You don't _add_ existing instances of a category to a list enumerating that category) As it seems the only thing worse than your emotional continence is your reading comprehension, I should probably take my leave of this "conversation". I hope your day goes better than it has been.
  - inopinatus 5y ago
    This is tying ever more byzantine verbal knots trying to argue you didn't create a strawman to argue against (you did), and adding to that, sinking to personal abuse hoping it improves the quality of the argument (it doesn't). There are multiple interpretations of "Add this to the list of dark patterns". The asinine paraphrase of this to "a new dark pattern", especially coupled to the absurdly rigid thinking of the explanation offered, is not merely one of many interpretations; it is the least likely, because the general case of Hobson's choice and its related dilemmas have been recognised for centuries. Ergo, we can trivially reject that interpretation. The author might instead merely be suggesting this is their first personal recognition of such a pattern, or they could be imagining a list of specific instances of major tech companies deploying such a pattern, or offering simply a figure of speech to say "this is a dark pattern", and several other variations besides. Tip: the world is not a fucking Lisp machine. In light of which, the cheap crack about "reading comprehension" looks even more sophomoric. What's more, none of that invalidates the actual point, viz. it is one.

inopinatus 5y ago

I have said nothing about feelings, nor included an opinion about ads in general. For someone this supercilious, you sure make a lot of bad assumptions en route. The only person to have used the phrase “new dark pattern”, by the way, is you. So if you want to argue whether it’s new or not, go right ahead: you’re just arguing with yourself. If you want to argue it’s not a dark pattern, then good luck on the next zebra crossing. I’m not your “buddy”, either.

wutbrodo 5y ago
> The only person to have used the phrase “new dark pattern”, by the way, is you. From the comment I responded to: "Add this to the list of dark patterns". (You don't _add_ existing instances of a category to a list enumerating that category) As it seems the only thing worse than your emotional continence is your reading comprehension, I should probably take my leave of this "conversation". I hope your day goes better than it has been.
- inopinatus 5y ago
  This is tying ever more byzantine verbal knots trying to argue you didn't create a strawman to argue against (you did), and adding to that, sinking to personal abuse hoping it improves the quality of the argument (it doesn't). There are multiple interpretations of "Add this to the list of dark patterns". The asinine paraphrase of this to "a new dark pattern", especially coupled to the absurdly rigid thinking of the explanation offered, is not merely one of many interpretations; it is the least likely, because the general case of Hobson's choice and its related dilemmas have been recognised for centuries. Ergo, we can trivially reject that interpretation. The author might instead merely be suggesting this is their first personal recognition of such a pattern, or they could be imagining a list of specific instances of major tech companies deploying such a pattern, or offering simply a figure of speech to say "this is a dark pattern", and several other variations besides. Tip: the world is not a fucking Lisp machine. In light of which, the cheap crack about "reading comprehension" looks even more sophomoric. What's more, none of that invalidates the actual point, viz. it is one.