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Storagebox is a nice service, but what I really love with Hetzner is their auction of used dedicated servers ("Serverbörse") at https://www.hetzner.com/sb https

Storagebox is a nice service, but what I really love with Hetzner is their auction of used dedicated servers ("Serverbörse") at https://www.hetzner.com/sb https://www.hetzner.com/sb.

disiplus 5y ago
are those real auctions, because i see a price and the option to order it with that price. for example currently auction has a 64gb ram 500gb ssd and a old quad core xeon with a cpu score of 8000 for 44 eur vs a new amd ryzen with a score of 20000 for 40 eur + 46 eur setup. the old server does not make sense here.
- sodality2 5y ago
  Where do you see the Ryzen for 40 eur? The cheapest Ryzen I see is €61.00 / month and none have any set up fees.
  - disiplus 5y ago
    https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver?ram_from=2&ram_to=4&ssd=true https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver?ram_from=2&ram_... https://postimg.cc/xXxpNw1k https://postimg.cc/xXxpNw1k i was comparing the "used servers auctions" vs new dedicated servers.
- k8sToGo 5y ago
  They increased prices recently because of the increased electricity costs.
  - iforgotpassword 5y ago
    Yeah and not just by a bit. My existing server went from 24 to 33€. I mean it's still cheap I guess, a 4th gen i7 with 16gb ram and 2tb HDD, but still, that's like a 50% increase for a machine that's mostly idle and occasional peak load.
- taneliv 5y ago
  Back in the day when I rented a server from their auction, the prices indeed did drop by 1€ every 24h or 72h or whatever. But not below a minimum they had set per computer type, perhaps that is still how it works. And yeah, it doesn't make sense to get an old Xeon for a higher monthly fee than a recent Ryzen, only some of the auctions make sense. (But then they might make a lot of sense: I got 6T of disk, 16G RAM and 8 cores for 27€/m.)
  - moepstar 5y ago
    In the case of the Xeon, i think they also price in their electricity costs - supposedly, the Xeon uses more power than the Ryzen? Due to a recent price hike with electricity, their CEO once again acknowledged on their forums that they do not sell (rent, rather) the servers in the Serverbörse at a loss.
- michaelsalim 5y ago
  From what I understood, the price goes down occasionally (not sure how often). If you're happy with the price, then go for it. Otherwise wait for it go lower and risk someone stealing the deal. That's why the price varies widely. You need to wait for the price to go down. It's kinda like a reverse auction I guess?
  - Normille 5y ago
    >You need to wait for the price to go down. It's kinda like a reverse auction I guess? It's called a Dutch Auction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction
    - michaelsalim 5y ago
      Good to know, thanks!
  - addandsubtract 5y ago
    It's referred to as a Dutch auction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction
Hetzner_OL 5y ago
Thanks for mentioning the Server Auction servers. For anyone else who is interested in our Auction Servers, we have an FAQ here: https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/general/server-auction-faqs https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/general/server-auction-faqs --Katie

Storagebox is a nice service, but what I really love with Hetzner is their auction of used dedicated servers ("Serverbörse") at https://www.hetzner.com/sb https://www.hetzner.com/sb.

disiplus 5y ago

are those real auctions, because i see a price and the option to order it with that price. for example currently auction has a 64gb ram 500gb ssd and a old quad core xeon with a cpu score of 8000 for 44 eur vs a new amd ryzen with a score of 20000 for 40 eur + 46 eur setup. the old server does not make sense here.

sodality2 5y ago
Where do you see the Ryzen for 40 eur? The cheapest Ryzen I see is €61.00 / month and none have any set up fees.
- disiplus 5y ago
  https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver?ram_from=2&ram_to=4&ssd=true https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver?ram_from=2&ram_... https://postimg.cc/xXxpNw1k https://postimg.cc/xXxpNw1k i was comparing the "used servers auctions" vs new dedicated servers.
k8sToGo 5y ago
They increased prices recently because of the increased electricity costs.
- iforgotpassword 5y ago
  Yeah and not just by a bit. My existing server went from 24 to 33€. I mean it's still cheap I guess, a 4th gen i7 with 16gb ram and 2tb HDD, but still, that's like a 50% increase for a machine that's mostly idle and occasional peak load.
taneliv 5y ago
Back in the day when I rented a server from their auction, the prices indeed did drop by 1€ every 24h or 72h or whatever. But not below a minimum they had set per computer type, perhaps that is still how it works. And yeah, it doesn't make sense to get an old Xeon for a higher monthly fee than a recent Ryzen, only some of the auctions make sense. (But then they might make a lot of sense: I got 6T of disk, 16G RAM and 8 cores for 27€/m.)
- moepstar 5y ago
  In the case of the Xeon, i think they also price in their electricity costs - supposedly, the Xeon uses more power than the Ryzen? Due to a recent price hike with electricity, their CEO once again acknowledged on their forums that they do not sell (rent, rather) the servers in the Serverbörse at a loss.
michaelsalim 5y ago
From what I understood, the price goes down occasionally (not sure how often). If you're happy with the price, then go for it. Otherwise wait for it go lower and risk someone stealing the deal. That's why the price varies widely. You need to wait for the price to go down. It's kinda like a reverse auction I guess?
- Normille 5y ago
  >You need to wait for the price to go down. It's kinda like a reverse auction I guess? It's called a Dutch Auction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction
  - michaelsalim 5y ago
    Good to know, thanks!
- addandsubtract 5y ago
  It's referred to as a Dutch auction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction

Hetzner_OL 5y ago

Thanks for mentioning the Server Auction servers. For anyone else who is interested in our Auction Servers, we have an FAQ here: https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/general/server-auction-faqs https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/general/server-auction-faqs --Katie