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You're arguing that an incident involving three individuals of Japanese descent in Hawaii, a US territory at the time, somehow justifies sending almost the enti

You're arguing that an incident involving three individuals of Japanese descent in Hawaii, a US territory at the time, somehow justifies sending almost the entirety of the Japanese Americans to internment camps. I don't think this story is being suppressed, it seems insignificant. Can you imagine if the story read, "Three Puerto Rican residents of German descent — two of which immigrated to Puerto Rico from Germany — helped a Nazi pilot after crash landing his plane. Therefore the US Government has decided to send all German Americans across the continental US to internment camps."? This is just a bad take.

YATA0 5y ago
German-Americans were also subjected to internment[0], even from Latin America. Your premise is wrong. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_America...
jmpman 5y ago
From the Wikipedia article I’d cited: Historian Gordon Prange notes that "the rapidity with which the three resident Japanese went over to the pilot's cause" troubled the Hawaiians and added: "The more pessimistic among them cited the Niʻihau incident as proof that no one could trust any Japanese, even if an American citizen, not to go over to Japan if it appeared expedient."[16] Novelist William Hallstead argues that the Niʻihau incident influenced decisions leading to the Japanese American internment on the continental United States. According to Hallstead, the behavior of Shintani and the Haradas was included in an official Navy report dated January 26, 1942. The report's author Navy Lieutenant C. B. Baldwin wrote: "The fact that the two Niʻihau Japanese who had previously shown no anti-American tendencies went to the aid of the pilot when Japanese domination of the island seemed possible, indicate[s] [the] likelihood that Japanese residents previously believed loyal to the United States may aid Japan if further Japanese attacks appear successful." So, this incident, according to historians, is cited as the reason for the internment. Yet, in museums dedicated to the Japanese American experience, this isn’t mentioned anywhere. So, I’m not saying it justifies sending almost the entirety of the Japanese American to internment camps. Im saying that it was a major justification on sending almost the entirety of Japanese Americans to internment camps, and that information is being repressed in favor of a narrative that the internment was entirely due to racism.
jmpman 5y ago
You’re suggesting that 3 out of 3 Japanese Americans, 100%, when given the opportunity to help Japan over American, and chose Japan, is not significant? If 4 out of 4 had, would that have been significant? 100 out of 100? Just curious where your threshold is. Also curious at which point you would indicate that it’s no longer racist to cite the incidents? Also curious, at which point should we stop suppressing the information in our museums,

YATA0 5y ago

German-Americans were also subjected to internment[0], even from Latin America. Your premise is wrong. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_America...

jmpman 5y ago

From the Wikipedia article I’d cited: Historian Gordon Prange notes that "the rapidity with which the three resident Japanese went over to the pilot's cause" troubled the Hawaiians and added: "The more pessimistic among them cited the Niʻihau incident as proof that no one could trust any Japanese, even if an American citizen, not to go over to Japan if it appeared expedient."[16] Novelist William Hallstead argues that the Niʻihau incident influenced decisions leading to the Japanese American internment on the continental United States. According to Hallstead, the behavior of Shintani and the Haradas was included in an official Navy report dated January 26, 1942. The report's author Navy Lieutenant C. B. Baldwin wrote: "The fact that the two Niʻihau Japanese who had previously shown no anti-American tendencies went to the aid of the pilot when Japanese domination of the island seemed possible, indicate[s] [the] likelihood that Japanese residents previously believed loyal to the United States may aid Japan if further Japanese attacks appear successful." So, this incident, according to historians, is cited as the reason for the internment. Yet, in museums dedicated to the Japanese American experience, this isn’t mentioned anywhere. So, I’m not saying it justifies sending almost the entirety of the Japanese American to internment camps. Im saying that it was a major justification on sending almost the entirety of Japanese Americans to internment camps, and that information is being repressed in favor of a narrative that the internment was entirely due to racism.

jmpman 5y ago

You’re suggesting that 3 out of 3 Japanese Americans, 100%, when given the opportunity to help Japan over American, and chose Japan, is not significant? If 4 out of 4 had, would that have been significant? 100 out of 100? Just curious where your threshold is. Also curious at which point you would indicate that it’s no longer racist to cite the incidents? Also curious, at which point should we stop suppressing the information in our museums,