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Pages, Numbers, Keynote and iCloud for collab. 0€ No maintenance.

by sdze 5y ago

sdoering 5y ago
Except necessitating everyone uses a Mac ant not something else. Personally I would say something reasonable. But I know this is not the audience to state that one turned their back on the Apple and never once looked back. So if you are fully a Mac shop your solution actually works. In my experience not as good as it could, but given the price tag quite a great way to save the money. Office 365 is OK but collaborative working together still feels a bit clunky coming from Gsuite. But on the other hand as stand alone tools all MS Office Tools blow Google out of the water in terms of features. Esp. Excel. But Teams - well better than Hangouts. That's for sure. But compared to slack abysmal. I would love to like it. Because I like the idea of keeping documentation/documents and communication aligned in the same place with project management tied in the mix. But it is slow, has strange user experience behavior and PM with Ms Planner is limited to say the least. The problem for me is not having a good alternative. Imho this is something a startup should worry least about in the early stages. Use what is there and only optimize if the pain becomes (financially) unbearable.
- sdze 5y ago
  you don't need macOS to attend Facetime meetings. Browser is sufficient. Ok. All the coworkers have Macs so that is the smaller problem. But you can also edit / view / comment iWorks files in iCloud Web (Browser). If your team embraces agile mindset, you don't need to formalize processes that much. Product Backlog is in Numbers (no Jira etc). Shared workspace is basically a Pages document (as Confluence alternative). Only sad thing is, that iCloud drive does not support shared folders where people can dump some files in it.
  - sdoering 5y ago
    I agree. My main job is in a mainly Mac environment with only around 18% other OS users (mostly Windows). I switched after 3 MacBook Pros died on me in as so much years (after Touch Bar but before M1). I often have to colab on a Keynote and that in the browser when everything is designed with custom fonts and what not is not quite a great experience. These are the moments that I get a temp Mac from user helpdesk do the keynote stuff without a compliant device and keep on working with Win on my other machine for everything else. If I need to incorporate stuff from existing presentations into mine I upload to iCloud and export to PowerPoint. I actually told everyone when I switched that I am sure I will miss Keynote. But in the end I learned how far PowerPoint has come. But as said. I just do what is necessary. I think one can work with most tools. And I don't care that much if my hammer is *nix, Mac or Windows. I use what I have and be done with it.

Pages, Numbers, Keynote and iCloud for collab. 0€ No maintenance.

by sdze 5y ago

Pages, Numbers, Keynote and iCloud for collab. 0€ No maintenance.

Except necessitating everyone uses a Mac ant not something else. Personally I would say something reasonable. But I know this is not the audience to state that one turned their back on the Apple and never once looked back. So if you are fully a Mac shop your solution actually works. In my experience not as good as it could, but given the price tag quite a great way to save the money. Office 365 is OK but collaborative working together still feels a bit clunky coming from Gsuite. But on the other hand as stand alone tools all MS Office Tools blow Google out of the water in terms of features. Esp. Excel. But Teams - well better than Hangouts. That's for sure. But compared to slack abysmal. I would love to like it. Because I like the idea of keeping documentation/documents and communication aligned in the same place with project management tied in the mix. But it is slow, has strange user experience behavior and PM with Ms Planner is limited to say the least. The problem for me is not having a good alternative. Imho this is something a startup should worry least about in the early stages. Use what is there and only optimize if the pain becomes (financially) unbearable.

sdze 5y ago
you don't need macOS to attend Facetime meetings. Browser is sufficient. Ok. All the coworkers have Macs so that is the smaller problem. But you can also edit / view / comment iWorks files in iCloud Web (Browser). If your team embraces agile mindset, you don't need to formalize processes that much. Product Backlog is in Numbers (no Jira etc). Shared workspace is basically a Pages document (as Confluence alternative). Only sad thing is, that iCloud drive does not support shared folders where people can dump some files in it.
- sdoering 5y ago
  I agree. My main job is in a mainly Mac environment with only around 18% other OS users (mostly Windows). I switched after 3 MacBook Pros died on me in as so much years (after Touch Bar but before M1). I often have to colab on a Keynote and that in the browser when everything is designed with custom fonts and what not is not quite a great experience. These are the moments that I get a temp Mac from user helpdesk do the keynote stuff without a compliant device and keep on working with Win on my other machine for everything else. If I need to incorporate stuff from existing presentations into mine I upload to iCloud and export to PowerPoint. I actually told everyone when I switched that I am sure I will miss Keynote. But in the end I learned how far PowerPoint has come. But as said. I just do what is necessary. I think one can work with most tools. And I don't care that much if my hammer is *nix, Mac or Windows. I use what I have and be done with it.