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Not sure why this was posted here? After reading this article, you’d think Ukraine is a terrible, dying place not worth visiting - a take that strays into “Rus
by 0x38B 5y ago
Not sure why this was posted here?
After reading this article, you’d think Ukraine is a terrible, dying place not worth visiting - a take that strays into “Russian propaganda” territory. But it’s not; even with all the corruption and dysfunction, Ukraine is a fun place to live, full of smart, energetic people. They’ve got so much potential.
Also: the capital is “Kyiv”, not “Kiev” - Kiev is the Russian spelling (but maybe that was deliberate?).
- iz_zi 5y agoAs an American I’ve always seen it as “Kiev” in sources/media.
- app4soft 5y ago#KyivNotKiev[0] slowly adapted by news media in last years.[1,2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev [1] https://twitter.com/CorrectUA https://twitter.com/CorrectUA [2] https://twitter.com/search?f=live&q=from%3AMFA_Ukraine+include%3Anativeretweets+kyivnotkiev&src=typed_query https://twitter.com/search?f=live&q=from%3AMFA_Ukraine+inclu...
- irthomasthomas 5y agoIn Anglosphere we always spelled it Kiev. I understand their desire to separate from Russia, but you can't force other countries to change their language. We don't use Deutschland or Kyiv.
- app4soft 5y ago> but you can't force other countries to change their language. You are a bit late, because Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine already doing this.[0,1,2] On Twitter 'MFA_Ukraine' and 'CorrectUA' already posted successful cases.[3] [0] https://mfa.gov.ua/news/67521-correctua-mzs-ukrajini-zvertajetysya-do-svitu-vzhivaj-kyivnotkiev https://mfa.gov.ua/news/67521-correctua-mzs-ukrajini-zvertaj... [1] https://poland.mfa.gov.ua/pl/news/67529-correctua-mzs-ukrajini-zvertajetysya-do-svitu-vzhivaj-kyivnotkiev https://poland.mfa.gov.ua/pl/news/67529-correctua-mzs-ukraji... [2] https://kenya.mfa.gov.ua/news/6885-whats-in-a-name-the-switch-from-kiev-to-kyiv-for-the-ukrainian-capital https://kenya.mfa.gov.ua/news/6885-whats-in-a-name-the-switc... [3] https://twitter.com/search?f=live&q=%23KyivNotKiev+from%3AMFA_Ukraine+OR+from%3ACorrectUA&src=typed_query https://twitter.com/search?f=live&q=%23KyivNotKiev+from%3AMF...
- irthomasthomas 5y agoOh I know about the campaign, my point is that you cannot force people in other countries to change their language. We spell Kyiv Kiev. "You may know it as Myanmar, but it will always be Burma to me" -Seinfeld
- simonblack 5y ago"It might be rice wine to you, but it's saki to me*" - Laugh-In, 1968 * 'sock it to me'
- yucky 5y agoIn English it has always been spelled Kiev, and now when I check on Wikipedia it is Kyiv. This is a very recent change that I suspect most English speakers aren't even aware of.
- irthomasthomas 5y agoRussian language was banned by Ukraine after the Maidan Massacre and anti-Russian revolution. So this is part of Ukraine strategy to move away from Russia and toward The West.
- yucky 5y agoEven if it means World War?
- irthomasthomas 5y agoIn a way, Ukraine might be safer than the west in case of ww3, since Russia wont want to nuke itself or nearest neighbour.
- windock 5y agoRussian language wasn’t banned. I’m a russian speaking Ukrainian. Everywhere I go I can speak russian. Legislature was changes to require workers to greet in ukrainian, yes. However, there are no restrictions on anyone speaking any language. This measure is supported by me, and most of my friends, as a way to counter-balance russification, a centuries-long process of forcing russian language in every sphere of life. It is difficult for me to switch to Ukrainian, but I support any measure for next generation to use the language of our country.
- jansen555 5y ago