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i am literally never going back to office not even hybrid... ill take 100k cut if i had to.. my passion for coding as a job is already on its last legs. this re

i am literally never going back to office not even hybrid... ill take 100k cut if i had to.. my passion for coding as a job is already on its last legs. this reflects purely on the new mayor shows incompetence social psychology, economics and policy making. if worlds problem could be fixed just by forcing people to in perfect way, world would an utopia. how about not artificially divide city into residential/office/commercial areas?

missedthecue 5y ago
Man, I'm the exact opposite. At this point I would take a paycut to find a decent company that is exclusively back in the office.
- 1270018080 5y ago
  You'll have a virtually unlimited number of choices as some companies start to force people back in the coming months.
- MrWiffles 5y ago
  As someone who's worked remote since long before the pandemic, I often wonder if this attitude will eventually become a significant portion of the chunk of people who are saying "remote only forever!" now. In my case, sometimes - about 50% of the time roughly - I want an office to work out of. I want to separate home and work life for a multitude of reasons, most notably, just to get some damn peace when I'm done with work. The emotional toll of "walk into your living room, there's work. Wake up, there's work. Done with work? Go chill in your living room an-nope, there's work." can be a pain in the ass after so many years. So I wonder if I'm somewhat unique in that and maybe it's all in my head, or if eventually, once they've had a substantial remote experience for a few years, more people will be in a place similar to me: they like the benefits of remote, but man that constant work presence thing takes a hell of a toll after a while. Guess we'll see in a few years if people eventually change their points of view. I don't expect it to be the majority opinion by a long shot, probably not ever, but eventually it may rise to a non-negligible number. Personally I'd prefer a flexible "come to the office when you want and for very rare special occasions" (critical client meetings once or twice a year, etc.) policy. I think success here is going to break the simplistic "everybody must do x" one-size-fits-all-whether-you-like-it-or-not typical corporate narrowminded oversimplicity, and instead be enabled by flexibility and control on the employee's part, effectively managed by a good manager. That'll be rare.
  - voakbasda 5y ago
    I have worked remotely for almost 30 years. I know e feeling of net being able to leave work, but the solution for me was simple. At some point, I moved my office into its own room. Now I can leave work at the end of the day and close the door behind me. It takes some conditioning to break a workaholic mindset. For me, I filled my time with playing music and then farming. Hobbies became a necessary distraction to maintain a work-life balance. But once the habit was formed, I couldn’t imagine going back.
    - MrWiffles 5y ago
      I tried this myself once upon a time, but I failed the "discipline" part :-) I suspect that's going to be true of most people. And with the cost of housing being out of control, rising exponentially faster than income and inflation, I suspect getting another bedroom (be it via purchasing a larger house or moving to a bigger apartment) is going to be out of reach for most people for quite a while. Still, I agree with your approach here entirely, this is the way to handle it. Co-working space also could work, but then you have a commute, so you might as well just go into the office at that point! Glad you were able to make it work for you!
- scelerat 5y ago
  I’m firmly in the “sometimes it’s nice to work in an office with other coworkers” camp. Sometimes. Looking forward to the next couple of months where our company is going to have 2/3 office/remote weeks
motoxpro 5y ago
"this reflects purely on the new mayor shows incompetence social psychology, economics and policy making" Eh, I mean, seems like he is more so trying to get work for all of the people that live there in the quickest way he knows how. Cleaners, hotels, police, hospitality, etc. Cities are networks effects in the physical world, if they start to unravel then most people will be out of a job. That's totally your right to want to never come back to the office, I'm sure you will have no problem doing just that. On the contrary, it's actually the mayor's JOB to keep those network effects (i.e. the city) going. So yeah, we could reconfigure New York, and maybe we should, but that will cause a lot of pain to a lot of people who can't do what you are doing and who don't make 100k+ in the comfort of their own home.
- emptysongglass 5y ago
  It's not the mayor's job to do this. This is such a hamfisted approach to re-homing tax dollars. Instead of thinking innovatively, he's an old man arguing with the waves. It reeks of ugly desperation and parental overreach. The people have spoken. Now it's time to learn to surf.

missedthecue 5y ago

Man, I'm the exact opposite. At this point I would take a paycut to find a decent company that is exclusively back in the office.

1270018080 5y ago
You'll have a virtually unlimited number of choices as some companies start to force people back in the coming months.
MrWiffles 5y ago
As someone who's worked remote since long before the pandemic, I often wonder if this attitude will eventually become a significant portion of the chunk of people who are saying "remote only forever!" now. In my case, sometimes - about 50% of the time roughly - I want an office to work out of. I want to separate home and work life for a multitude of reasons, most notably, just to get some damn peace when I'm done with work. The emotional toll of "walk into your living room, there's work. Wake up, there's work. Done with work? Go chill in your living room an-nope, there's work." can be a pain in the ass after so many years. So I wonder if I'm somewhat unique in that and maybe it's all in my head, or if eventually, once they've had a substantial remote experience for a few years, more people will be in a place similar to me: they like the benefits of remote, but man that constant work presence thing takes a hell of a toll after a while. Guess we'll see in a few years if people eventually change their points of view. I don't expect it to be the majority opinion by a long shot, probably not ever, but eventually it may rise to a non-negligible number. Personally I'd prefer a flexible "come to the office when you want and for very rare special occasions" (critical client meetings once or twice a year, etc.) policy. I think success here is going to break the simplistic "everybody must do x" one-size-fits-all-whether-you-like-it-or-not typical corporate narrowminded oversimplicity, and instead be enabled by flexibility and control on the employee's part, effectively managed by a good manager. That'll be rare.
- voakbasda 5y ago
  I have worked remotely for almost 30 years. I know e feeling of net being able to leave work, but the solution for me was simple. At some point, I moved my office into its own room. Now I can leave work at the end of the day and close the door behind me. It takes some conditioning to break a workaholic mindset. For me, I filled my time with playing music and then farming. Hobbies became a necessary distraction to maintain a work-life balance. But once the habit was formed, I couldn’t imagine going back.
  - MrWiffles 5y ago
    I tried this myself once upon a time, but I failed the "discipline" part :-) I suspect that's going to be true of most people. And with the cost of housing being out of control, rising exponentially faster than income and inflation, I suspect getting another bedroom (be it via purchasing a larger house or moving to a bigger apartment) is going to be out of reach for most people for quite a while. Still, I agree with your approach here entirely, this is the way to handle it. Co-working space also could work, but then you have a commute, so you might as well just go into the office at that point! Glad you were able to make it work for you!
scelerat 5y ago
I’m firmly in the “sometimes it’s nice to work in an office with other coworkers” camp. Sometimes. Looking forward to the next couple of months where our company is going to have 2/3 office/remote weeks

motoxpro 5y ago

"this reflects purely on the new mayor shows incompetence social psychology, economics and policy making" Eh, I mean, seems like he is more so trying to get work for all of the people that live there in the quickest way he knows how. Cleaners, hotels, police, hospitality, etc. Cities are networks effects in the physical world, if they start to unravel then most people will be out of a job. That's totally your right to want to never come back to the office, I'm sure you will have no problem doing just that. On the contrary, it's actually the mayor's JOB to keep those network effects (i.e. the city) going. So yeah, we could reconfigure New York, and maybe we should, but that will cause a lot of pain to a lot of people who can't do what you are doing and who don't make 100k+ in the comfort of their own home.

emptysongglass 5y ago
It's not the mayor's job to do this. This is such a hamfisted approach to re-homing tax dollars. Instead of thinking innovatively, he's an old man arguing with the waves. It reeks of ugly desperation and parental overreach. The people have spoken. Now it's time to learn to surf.