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Why doesn’t Apple have a team doing what Citizens Lab does, instead of victims contacting a third party? Also, I wonder if Google Pixel is more secure?
by aborsy 5y ago
Why doesn’t Apple have a team doing what Citizens Lab does, instead of victims contacting a third party?
Also, I wonder if Google Pixel is more secure?
- zionic 5y agoBecause Animoji was more important. Incase anyone was wondering, yes the amount they spent on that particular feature vastly eclipsed their spend on the kinds of teams that could have caught this.
- saagarjha 5y agoI really don't get why you would make a statement like this with such confidence. Apple employees hundreds of people on its security teams and pays each of those engineers fairly well. Animoji is a spin off of their Face ID work, which you could arguably call a security feature in its own right but not strictly a red team.
- AussieWog93 5y agoTo be fair, Animoji probably sell more phones that protection against State-backed adversaries.
- anaganisk 5y agoI find it very hard to believe that the richest company in the world, didn’t have enough money to implement Animoji. And they had to eclipse the budget of security team. Could you provide a source for that?
- mrep 5y ago3rd richest if we are going by profits: https://companiesmarketcap.com/most-profitable-companies/ https://companiesmarketcap.com/most-profitable-companies/
- anaganisk 5y agoI mean thats not really something any relevant to my comment, even if by profits it lags at 3rd place. Yet its significantly ahead of Microsoft and Google. And Apple doesn’t even have its own cloud business like Azure to take care of, so its very tough to believe Apple spent all its money on a novelty trick.
- mensetmanusman 5y ago10 years from now: “security researchers find a blank Animoji file that ended up being a security exploit wrapped around an OS written with image files”
- IncRnd 5y agoSpeaking of Google's security, this gem was in the article, "Soon after her release from jail, the activist received an email from Google warning her that state-backed hackers had tried to penetrate her Gmail account."
- alwillis 5y agoThe short answer is it doesn’t matter when a government comes after you because of their ability to spend the resources necessary to infiltrate your device. Apple’s security teams aren’t public facing; I suspect if a corporate or university customer had security issues, they would be addressed.
- npteljes 5y agoA recent Pixel with GrapheneOS installed should be pretty secure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrapheneOS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrapheneOS
- saagarjha 5y agoApple has recently started notifying people who they suspect to have been targeted by state-sponsored attackers. I believe Google has a similar program in place for a while.