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Coffee Meets Bagel originally tried this before they changed things. It's bad for men who already get ~0 matches unless you're in the top few % of men. It's ba
by gonehome 5y ago
Coffee Meets Bagel originally tried this before they changed things.
It's bad for men who already get ~0 matches unless you're in the top few % of men. It's bad for women who get a lot out of the massive selection options (why limit themselves to one? no benefit to them). The issue with dating sites is men are a commodity and women have too many options and that commoditization of men causes problems. Artificially limiting to one doesn't fix this though because the other apps still exist, you can't enforce a true limit when one doesn't exist (and can't exist given how mate selection works in people anyway, women will always be mostly choosing among many options and men have to pursue).
It's a little better based on region, but if you're not in the top few % of men (particularly if you're in a skewed area like the bay area) dating websites are not in your best interest. We're more similar to gorillas than people think.
I don't think this is an issue that can be solved via dating sites. Men will always have to adapt to meet their particular strengths in order to succeed and for that vast majority of us this means eschewing dating apps. Basically learning the human male variant of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX40mBb8bkU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX40mBb8bkU
The naive appeal of dating apps for men is obvious, it's really hard to meet single women randomly and showing interest correctly is complicated. The barrier seems lower with apps (but mostly isn't), people deeply desire a mate, but I think the lower barrier of apps is mostly an illusion for the vast majority of men who will get very few matches, even then there's no real replacement for improving social skills through the difficulty of actual practice and attempts (which apps don't help much with given effort to match ratio, effort to actual date ratio is even worse). The actual effort required I'd argue is higher in the end and you end up feeling worse about yourself because your value among other dating site men really is close to zero (a commodity).
I think for women the apps can be useful because you can set a date every week (or even more frequently) and there's a lot of benefit to this in practicing, getting a sense of what you like (or even just feeling good about yourself/desirable with hundreds of matches). Sure many dates are bad, but just getting this kind of at-bat practice is useful. This doesn't contradict the previous paragraph because most of these dates are with the same top few % of men that do well with apps.
Obviously the above applies to heterosexual matching, other types are different.
Personally I'm so glad to be out of the game. To other men still in it, I'd at least say it does get easier as you get older. If you're 22 and miserable, it'll be way easier at 27+ (I suspect largely because young men have low status, women tend not to want to date younger, etc.)