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Those "exploited workers" probably made decent money relative to the cost of living in their location, and they got to do it from the comfort of a computer inst

Those "exploited workers" probably made decent money relative to the cost of living in their location, and they got to do it from the comfort of a computer instead of hard labor in the sun, which is what someone in their same socioeconomic bracket would more likely be doing.

balthigor 5y ago
How would you know? Have you ever been in "their" location living in "their" same socioeconomic bracket? Would it bother you more if "their" was replaced with "our"? Would you then consider it "decent" money?
- skhr0680 5y ago
  Minimum wage to drive a robot sounds way better than minimum wage in retail
- MathCodeLove 5y ago
  If it was "our" citizens getting paid near (US) minimum wage to sit at home and monitor a robot all day then yes, I'd still be all for it. Teenage me would have much preferred that to fast food, and even adult me would happily take it as a second or interim job if needed and unable to find better paying work for some reason. And I'm sure it'd be a great opportunity for the physically disabled or other people unable to leave home. This is a win for everyone involved. A US company gets to outsource easy work at a price below our minimum wage that they can afford to a population which can live happily with those lower wages due to their nations cost of living.
- fivea 5y ago
  > How would you know? How do you know someone hired to drive a remote vehicle is being exploited?
Hakashiro 5y ago
"It is okay to pay sub-living national wages to foreigners in other countries because their cost of living is lower" And I suppose you should also add they must stay there and never come to your country because then your job is at risk?
- MathCodeLove 5y ago
  >"It is okay to pay wages below what we could live on to foreigners in other countries because their cost of living is lower" FTFY. But, yes? How is that controversial? >And I suppose you should also add they must stay there and never come to your country because then your job is at risk? How do you draw that completely unrelated conclusion from the previous conversation?
  - Hakashiro 5y ago
    Cost of living is irrelevant when the cost of certain goods like iPhones, computers, Internet subscriptions and other things is fundamentally determined by strong markets like USA or EU. Or are you going to tell me that Indians don't deserve to use iPhones, watch Netflix, or learn new skills through online programmes? Because that would be pretty racist, and I don't suppose you consider yourself racist, do you? Further, the fact some countries earn astronomically high wages means they can, when they retire, take everything with them, into a cheap country like Egypt, India, or Greece, and live like emperors. Is that fair? Especially when hard-working people in India can barely afford vacation in their own country.
    - cuteboy19 5y ago
      Cost of Netflix minimum (non mobile) plan US: $9.99=760₹ India: $2.6=199₹
      - Hakashiro 5y ago
        Indians make less than 1/4th of an American salary. Your point?
        MathCodeLove 5y ago
        > Cost of living is irrelevant when the cost of certain goods like iPhones, computers, Internet subscriptions and other things is fundamentally determined by strong markets like USA or EU.

balthigor 5y ago

How would you know? Have you ever been in "their" location living in "their" same socioeconomic bracket? Would it bother you more if "their" was replaced with "our"? Would you then consider it "decent" money?

skhr0680 5y ago
Minimum wage to drive a robot sounds way better than minimum wage in retail
MathCodeLove 5y ago
If it was "our" citizens getting paid near (US) minimum wage to sit at home and monitor a robot all day then yes, I'd still be all for it. Teenage me would have much preferred that to fast food, and even adult me would happily take it as a second or interim job if needed and unable to find better paying work for some reason. And I'm sure it'd be a great opportunity for the physically disabled or other people unable to leave home. This is a win for everyone involved. A US company gets to outsource easy work at a price below our minimum wage that they can afford to a population which can live happily with those lower wages due to their nations cost of living.
fivea 5y ago
> How would you know? How do you know someone hired to drive a remote vehicle is being exploited?

Hakashiro 5y ago

"It is okay to pay sub-living national wages to foreigners in other countries because their cost of living is lower" And I suppose you should also add they must stay there and never come to your country because then your job is at risk?

MathCodeLove 5y ago
>"It is okay to pay wages below what we could live on to foreigners in other countries because their cost of living is lower" FTFY. But, yes? How is that controversial? >And I suppose you should also add they must stay there and never come to your country because then your job is at risk? How do you draw that completely unrelated conclusion from the previous conversation?
- Hakashiro 5y ago
  Cost of living is irrelevant when the cost of certain goods like iPhones, computers, Internet subscriptions and other things is fundamentally determined by strong markets like USA or EU. Or are you going to tell me that Indians don't deserve to use iPhones, watch Netflix, or learn new skills through online programmes? Because that would be pretty racist, and I don't suppose you consider yourself racist, do you? Further, the fact some countries earn astronomically high wages means they can, when they retire, take everything with them, into a cheap country like Egypt, India, or Greece, and live like emperors. Is that fair? Especially when hard-working people in India can barely afford vacation in their own country.
  - cuteboy19 5y ago
    Cost of Netflix minimum (non mobile) plan US: $9.99=760₹ India: $2.6=199₹
    - Hakashiro 5y ago
      Indians make less than 1/4th of an American salary. Your point?
      - MathCodeLove 5y ago
        > Cost of living is irrelevant when the cost of certain goods like iPhones, computers, Internet subscriptions and other things is fundamentally determined by strong markets like USA or EU.