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I wonder if the growing number of WFH jobs would help alleviate this. I'm a software engineer who mostly works from home. We sell (mostly) support for OSS. T

by deeg 5y ago

I wonder if the growing number of WFH jobs would help alleviate this. I'm a software engineer who mostly works from home. We sell (mostly) support for OSS. This seems like a situation where an ex-con might have an opportunity.

lr4444lr 5y ago
I'm not seeing this materializing. You're talking about not only jobs where employees have secret keys and admin access to data, but on top of that, no fear of anyone peeking over their shoulder even if there is some remote system monitoring. The trust required for the person not to abuse the privileged access and to have a reduced chance of getting caught is a huge risk.
giraffe_lady 5y ago
What does that have to do with anything? There's not a shortage of jobs that they are able to do, there's a shortage of jobs we're willing to let them do.
dahfizz 5y ago
I think the opposite is more likely. WFH increases the level of trust needed between employer and employee.
- brnt 5y ago
  I don't really check who's building my websites or little tools I purchase. It's not exactly wfh, it's just having your own business that does not require (much of) an office.
  - handmodel 5y ago
    It seems besides the point. The vast majority of cons are people without a huge range of skills to choose from. I'm sure convicted hackers or white collar criminals have trouble finding work that suits their skill level but probably able to do so at a cut/lower level. The one convicted white collar criminal I know is working again.
  - dilippkumar 5y ago
    Completely unrelated to the thread but > I don't really check who's building my websites or little tools I purchase. How do you sleep at night? Honest question. I want to know the assumptions and reasoning that leads to one being comfortable with this decision. I’m probably more worried than I should be, but every time I look at my puny little openBSD webserver’s log, I find about 2 to 5 new attempts to scan my server for various exploits a month. Each attempt is a relentless scans looking for all sorts of holes with hundreds of potential exploits. The first time I read those logs, I swore I would never move from openBSD + httpd ever. The internet is outright hostile to any computer with an ip address and a port open to the internet. I’m sure there are some companies out there that provide hosting solutions that do a good job at keeping things updated - but even they are defenseless against things like the recent log4j vulnerability (and that’s just the stuff the good guys caught). At the very least, I would want to know who is building my websites and what their track record is.
    - HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
      Some people are natural worriers and others aren't. I'm not. In the end it's probably as simple as that.
    - brnt 5y ago
      So, you never pay for anything on an app store? You host everything on your own hardware? I am far more worried about the air quality that floats into my home than a website that's hosted somewhere else and isn't connected to anything but its own content.
      - dilippkumar 5y ago
        > So, you never pay for anything on an app store? I buy software from the app store for sure. But I do not pull down .apk binaries from the darkweb and run them on my phone - especially if I don't know who the author was. I doubt most sane people would download and run binaries from random websites (darkweb or not) even today. > You host everything on your own hardware? No I don't. I trust my hosting provider, and they have a track record of reputable service, I have a business relationship with them. I would say I know who is hosting my website.
jsnodlin 5y ago

by deeg 5y ago

lr4444lr 5y ago

I'm not seeing this materializing. You're talking about not only jobs where employees have secret keys and admin access to data, but on top of that, no fear of anyone peeking over their shoulder even if there is some remote system monitoring. The trust required for the person not to abuse the privileged access and to have a reduced chance of getting caught is a huge risk.

giraffe_lady 5y ago

What does that have to do with anything? There's not a shortage of jobs that they are able to do, there's a shortage of jobs we're willing to let them do.

dahfizz 5y ago

I think the opposite is more likely. WFH increases the level of trust needed between employer and employee.

brnt 5y ago
I don't really check who's building my websites or little tools I purchase. It's not exactly wfh, it's just having your own business that does not require (much of) an office.
- handmodel 5y ago
  It seems besides the point. The vast majority of cons are people without a huge range of skills to choose from. I'm sure convicted hackers or white collar criminals have trouble finding work that suits their skill level but probably able to do so at a cut/lower level. The one convicted white collar criminal I know is working again.
- dilippkumar 5y ago
  Completely unrelated to the thread but > I don't really check who's building my websites or little tools I purchase. How do you sleep at night? Honest question. I want to know the assumptions and reasoning that leads to one being comfortable with this decision. I’m probably more worried than I should be, but every time I look at my puny little openBSD webserver’s log, I find about 2 to 5 new attempts to scan my server for various exploits a month. Each attempt is a relentless scans looking for all sorts of holes with hundreds of potential exploits. The first time I read those logs, I swore I would never move from openBSD + httpd ever. The internet is outright hostile to any computer with an ip address and a port open to the internet. I’m sure there are some companies out there that provide hosting solutions that do a good job at keeping things updated - but even they are defenseless against things like the recent log4j vulnerability (and that’s just the stuff the good guys caught). At the very least, I would want to know who is building my websites and what their track record is.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
    Some people are natural worriers and others aren't. I'm not. In the end it's probably as simple as that.
  - brnt 5y ago
    So, you never pay for anything on an app store? You host everything on your own hardware? I am far more worried about the air quality that floats into my home than a website that's hosted somewhere else and isn't connected to anything but its own content.
    - dilippkumar 5y ago
      > So, you never pay for anything on an app store? I buy software from the app store for sure. But I do not pull down .apk binaries from the darkweb and run them on my phone - especially if I don't know who the author was. I doubt most sane people would download and run binaries from random websites (darkweb or not) even today. > You host everything on your own hardware? No I don't. I trust my hosting provider, and they have a track record of reputable service, I have a business relationship with them. I would say I know who is hosting my website.

jsnodlin 5y ago