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except the children made the system. they decided on the rules that would apply to them. there is no "system" beyond their own agreement!

drekipus 5y ago
That's fine and would teach the kids about tyranny and how to overcome it. But isn't this about the teachers intervening? How are kids to fight against the teachers?
- ertjaet 5y ago
  > would teach that's... what they did teach. > How are kids to fight against the teachers? why would the kids need to fight the teachers???
  - drekipus 5y ago
    > why would the kids need to fight the teachers??? Because humans aren't perfect and even children need to be able to be able to assert and stand up for themselves. Kid v adult would always lose, not sensible to do, yes. more of a chance if it's other kids. Hard to stand up against bullies if the bullies are 30 years your senior
- munk-a 5y ago
  > But isn't this about the teachers intervening? How are kids to fight against the teachers? The teachers intervened in the situation (essentially issued an injunction) while organizing a forum to mediate a solution. Also, just to be clear, adults must be tyrants where children are concerned - you can't logically bargain with emotionally immature humans. Occasionally somebody is going to get sent to the car or a time out.
  - drekipus 5y ago
    > adults must be tyrants where children are concerned - you can't logically bargain with emotionally immature humans. Occasionally somebody is going to get sent to the car or a time out. Yes you're right. Perhaps my whole take is "it's not how i would have done it" & "is not the lessons I would be trying to teach." As someone who had to punch upwards to climb out of poverty, I'm trying to think how a young me would take this lesson. I probably wouldn't even really get it, I probably wouldn't have been able to be in this class. But if I were.. I just find it conflicting. I'd be interested in seeing where the kids are now and/ where they came from.

drekipus 5y ago

That's fine and would teach the kids about tyranny and how to overcome it. But isn't this about the teachers intervening? How are kids to fight against the teachers?

ertjaet 5y ago
> would teach that's... what they did teach. > How are kids to fight against the teachers? why would the kids need to fight the teachers???
- drekipus 5y ago
  > why would the kids need to fight the teachers??? Because humans aren't perfect and even children need to be able to be able to assert and stand up for themselves. Kid v adult would always lose, not sensible to do, yes. more of a chance if it's other kids. Hard to stand up against bullies if the bullies are 30 years your senior
munk-a 5y ago
> But isn't this about the teachers intervening? How are kids to fight against the teachers? The teachers intervened in the situation (essentially issued an injunction) while organizing a forum to mediate a solution. Also, just to be clear, adults must be tyrants where children are concerned - you can't logically bargain with emotionally immature humans. Occasionally somebody is going to get sent to the car or a time out.
- drekipus 5y ago
  > adults must be tyrants where children are concerned - you can't logically bargain with emotionally immature humans. Occasionally somebody is going to get sent to the car or a time out. Yes you're right. Perhaps my whole take is "it's not how i would have done it" & "is not the lessons I would be trying to teach." As someone who had to punch upwards to climb out of poverty, I'm trying to think how a young me would take this lesson. I probably wouldn't even really get it, I probably wouldn't have been able to be in this class. But if I were.. I just find it conflicting. I'd be interested in seeing where the kids are now and/ where they came from.