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This. People need to buy a dock and stop whining. Or buy a desktop Mac in the first place and stop whining. Oh I need Ethernet -> buy a dock (or fix your shitt
by hughrr 5y ago
This. People need to buy a dock and stop whining. Or buy a desktop Mac in the first place and stop whining.
Oh I need Ethernet -> buy a dock (or fix your shitty wifi network).
Oh I need numerous USB devices -> buy a dock.
Oh I don't like BT devices -> buy a dock.
Oh I want to use some crusty old USB-A devices -> buy a dock.
Oh I want to use my mechanical keyboard and mouse -> why are you using a laptop? ... buy a dock
Dell sell a very nice Thunderbolt one that has 3x USB-A's, does PD, has two displayport outputs that work perfectly with the M1 macbooks (and PCs). I've got one. And it has a USB-A headset, mechanical keyboard and mouse connected to it and 2x 27" 4K displays with one single USB-C cable.
But screw all that I'd rather use the laptop built in devices (14" M1Pro MBP) and live a simpler life where I don't have a bunch of balls and chains hanging around forever.
- tjansen 5y ago... even better, if you can work with a single monitor, buy a USB-C monitor with built-in dock. They give you USB-A ports and sometimes also Ethernet. Dell has them in every size.
- ascagnel_ 5y agoThis is what I ended up doing -- I got a (relatively) inexpensive LG 4K monitor with USB-C, DisplayPort, and 2x HDMI inputs, and the monitor has a built-in headphone jack and a pair of USB-A ports. Plug in one cable, and my laptop or tablet turn into an experience that gets you close-ish to a desktop (the iPad still has real issues when you're trying to run it primarily through an external monitor, mostly that it only occupies a small portion of the screen if the app isn't specifically designed to handle an external display).
- xtracto 5y agoCould you share the LG monitor model?
- ascagnel_ 5y agoLG 27UN850-W It's a 2020 model, and they've updated it since then (the version listed on their website is 27UP850-W), but I don't think the panel itself has changed notably. I'd also recommend turning off the HDR support, especially if you're using it as a computer monitor -- all it seems to do is blow out reds and blues while undercooking greens.
- xtracto 5y agoThanks a lot!
- nudgeee 5y agoI have this monitor too and love it, but there is one major caveat -- the USB hub only operates at USB 2.0 speeds (480Mbps) when using a single cable for both display and USB.
- ascagnel_ 5y agoThis is an important caveat, but one I haven't stumbled over yet (I use the USB hub for M+KB and a 1080p webcam+mic, so I'm well under the 480Mbit limit).
- slig 5y agoI got a Dell Ultrawide 38" for this reason. Unfortunately it has a charging USB-C bug that conflicts with Apple hardware and Dell doesn't care about. They explicitly tell that they only support Windows. The display is awesome, but still.
- Koshkin 5y agoHaving to lug a dock around sorta defeats the promise of portability.
- hughrr 5y agoSo does dragging around all the accessories that you "need" to plug into your laptop. All I hear is the conflicting arguments: 1. I don't want to compromise on anything. 2. I want a laptop.
- brimble 5y agoYou don't always know what you'll need to plug in to on a given day, when you leave the house. Old Macs covered a bunch of those cases with built-in ports. Modern ones cover a lot fewer so you have to carry more crap.
- hughrr 5y agoI’m not plugging in anything I don’t own for security reasons.
- brimble 5y agoCool, you've flatly refused to assist/present-to the client, and will now be-fired/lose-the-contract. See why people need to connect to stuff other than what they personally own?
- hughrr 5y agoI’ve never had that problem in 25 years of doing this.
- brimble 5y agoLots of people use lots of ports that aren't USB-C, and are inconvenienced by having to carry dongles and extra cables if their laptop has very few kinds of built-in port. These people have actual needs and reasons behind their behavior. That's all. It's fine that you're not one of them.
- ori_b 5y agoI don't want to carry around a collection of bits to have a fully equipped laptop. I want something compact that comes in one piece.
- BeFlatXIII 5y agoRequire people to throw away money on more docking stations? Not going to stop whining over that.