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Only a handful of other worlds are described beyond a very rudimentary amount of detail though, no? So there would have to be an extreme amount of extrapolating

Only a handful of other worlds are described beyond a very rudimentary amount of detail though, no? So there would have to be an extreme amount of extrapolating.

beaconstudios 5y ago
There's the Dune Encyclopedia you could reference, that collates a lot of the worldbuilding notes that Frank Herbert created.
- bryanrasmussen 5y ago
  found here https://archive.org/details/dune-encyclopedia-the-complete-authorized-guide-and-companion-oef/Dune%20Encyclopedia%20The%20Complete%2C%20Authorized%20Guide%20and%20Companion%20%5BOEF%5D/ https://archive.org/details/dune-encyclopedia-the-complete-a...
- duskwuff 5y ago
  The Dune Encyclopedia was not based on any inside information from Frank Herbert. It was essentially an officially licensed fanwork -- much of the information in the Encyclopedia was wild speculation on the part of the authors.
  - beaconstudios 5y ago
    Oh, I did not know this - thanks for the correction. I remember being told that it was compiled from his notes but I guess that was mistaken.
    - duskwuff 5y ago
      > I remember being told that it was compiled from his notes but I guess that was mistaken. You may be confusing the Dune Encyclopedia with Brian Herbert's novels, which he claims are based on his father's notes (but probably aren't). Frank Herbert actually wrote a foreword to the Dune Encyclopedia, in which he noted that: "I must confess that I found it fascinating to re-enter here some of the sources on which the Chronicles are built. As the first 'Dune fan,' I give this encyclopedia my delighted approval, although I hold my own counsel on some of the issues still to be explored as the Chronicles unfold."
      - beaconstudios 5y ago
        It's very possible - in fact that Brian Herbert "fact" does ring a bell. Very unlikely to be true, given his books go off on a totally different, more Warhammer 40K-like direction.
pas 5y ago
That's basically the opposite of a problem. Star Wars was able to grew into the ultimate franchise starting with just a desert, a forest, a swamp, a cloud city, and a space station. Whoever [0] has the rights to Dune should be a good shepherd, announce a contest for new stories set in the Dune universe. [0] Brian Herbert. Maybe finally he can let go of his ambition to finish Dune. Or maybe he meant it in the mortal kombat sense?
- enkid 5y ago
  Didn't he "complete" the original series? Isn't that what Sandworms of Dune was? (Though he seems to keep mining side stories out the wazoo)
  - decafninja 5y ago
    I thought the majority of old school fans hated the BH/KJA sequels?
  - pas 5y ago
    They did. Dune 7 come out as Hunters of Dune in 2006. It's ... ok. (No, it's really not, but no point in dwelling on it. It's just not the same Dune. Frank wrote each book because he had very specific ideas, experiences, concepts, thoughts, problems in his mind. Brian wrote it to "finish" the saga. I very much recommend this amazing talk about the context of the original books: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDCgKdmly4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDCgKdmly4 ... and I think there's simply no point in "finishing" Dune, because it's like StarWars or StarTrek, there's no end to it. Just as there's always a new/old/forgotten/prodigal Skywalker, there's always an Atreides somewhere :))
- dylan604 5y ago
  >announce a contest Oh great! I've been looking for the opportunity to name a planet/city in a new world Boaty McBoatface!

Only a handful of other worlds are described beyond a very rudimentary amount of detail though, no? So there would have to be an extreme amount of extrapolating.

beaconstudios 5y ago

There's the Dune Encyclopedia you could reference, that collates a lot of the worldbuilding notes that Frank Herbert created.

bryanrasmussen 5y ago
found here https://archive.org/details/dune-encyclopedia-the-complete-authorized-guide-and-companion-oef/Dune%20Encyclopedia%20The%20Complete%2C%20Authorized%20Guide%20and%20Companion%20%5BOEF%5D/ https://archive.org/details/dune-encyclopedia-the-complete-a...
duskwuff 5y ago
The Dune Encyclopedia was not based on any inside information from Frank Herbert. It was essentially an officially licensed fanwork -- much of the information in the Encyclopedia was wild speculation on the part of the authors.
- beaconstudios 5y ago
  Oh, I did not know this - thanks for the correction. I remember being told that it was compiled from his notes but I guess that was mistaken.
  - duskwuff 5y ago
    > I remember being told that it was compiled from his notes but I guess that was mistaken. You may be confusing the Dune Encyclopedia with Brian Herbert's novels, which he claims are based on his father's notes (but probably aren't). Frank Herbert actually wrote a foreword to the Dune Encyclopedia, in which he noted that: "I must confess that I found it fascinating to re-enter here some of the sources on which the Chronicles are built. As the first 'Dune fan,' I give this encyclopedia my delighted approval, although I hold my own counsel on some of the issues still to be explored as the Chronicles unfold."
    - beaconstudios 5y ago
      It's very possible - in fact that Brian Herbert "fact" does ring a bell. Very unlikely to be true, given his books go off on a totally different, more Warhammer 40K-like direction.

pas 5y ago

That's basically the opposite of a problem. Star Wars was able to grew into the ultimate franchise starting with just a desert, a forest, a swamp, a cloud city, and a space station. Whoever [0] has the rights to Dune should be a good shepherd, announce a contest for new stories set in the Dune universe. [0] Brian Herbert. Maybe finally he can let go of his ambition to finish Dune. Or maybe he meant it in the mortal kombat sense?

enkid 5y ago
Didn't he "complete" the original series? Isn't that what Sandworms of Dune was? (Though he seems to keep mining side stories out the wazoo)
- decafninja 5y ago
  I thought the majority of old school fans hated the BH/KJA sequels?
- pas 5y ago
  They did. Dune 7 come out as Hunters of Dune in 2006. It's ... ok. (No, it's really not, but no point in dwelling on it. It's just not the same Dune. Frank wrote each book because he had very specific ideas, experiences, concepts, thoughts, problems in his mind. Brian wrote it to "finish" the saga. I very much recommend this amazing talk about the context of the original books: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDCgKdmly4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDCgKdmly4 ... and I think there's simply no point in "finishing" Dune, because it's like StarWars or StarTrek, there's no end to it. Just as there's always a new/old/forgotten/prodigal Skywalker, there's always an Atreides somewhere :))
dylan604 5y ago
>announce a contest Oh great! I've been looking for the opportunity to name a planet/city in a new world Boaty McBoatface!