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ProTip: "Cornelius undoubtedly committed fraud", according to the article. Never commit fraud in the UAE.

by draugadrotten 5y ago

CydeWeys 5y ago
I'd expand it to never do business in the Middle East. It's just not worth it.
- Cthulhu_ 5y ago
  It's not worth it for you perhaps; for others, international companies, it can be very lucrative to operate in or through Dubai.
- moralestapia 5y ago
  I was studying in Saudi Arabia (at KAUST) and my daughter got kidnapped for two weeks when I refused to comply with some work conditions they were trying to impose on me. Granted, the guys that did this were not arabs, they were two professors from Australia and the US, but still, it was weird how everybody turned their back on this as it seemed like the standard procedure to follow when one does not cooperate. WTF. Never do business in/with the Middle East.
  - RF_Savage 5y ago
    How do some australian dudes not get trouble from their government for participating/organizing a kidnapping to blackmail somebody? The US persons especially.
    - moralestapia 5y ago
      If you know more about what I could do, please get in touch (email on my profile). I am not from Australia or the US, so I don't really know how to start with such procedure. Also, it was such a traumatic experience that I was truly relieved when me and my family were back at home and safe, I wanted to just forget about it and rebuild my life at the moment. Now I'm in a much better place so I'm looking to, at least, share my story; particularly with young students, like I was at the time, so I could prevent them from going to these places where abuse is common and rampant.
      - RF_Savage 5y ago
        My limited understanding of the US law in regards to this is that if something is illegal in the US, the US persons are liable even if they commit the crime abroad. So they should still be criminally liable. Australia should have something similar, but I know even less about the relevant details. I wish I could be of more help.
    - actionfromafar 5y ago
      Even in the US people get away with all sorts of stuff when there's no evidence.
MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
tasha0663 5y ago
Does "fraud" here mean "fraud" there? What is the Arabic word for fraud? Are there multiple words for it with nuanced meanings? I don't know the answers, but I can imagine such an arrangement where saying "I can pay X amount of money owed on my credit card at Y date" and then failing to do so for any variety of reasons could be seen as fraudulent. I think the real LPT is to be darn sure you know the law and the language in strict places, and if you can't, be unreasonably careful.

ProTip: "Cornelius undoubtedly committed fraud", according to the article. Never commit fraud in the UAE.

CydeWeys 5y ago

I'd expand it to never do business in the Middle East. It's just not worth it.

Cthulhu_ 5y ago
It's not worth it for you perhaps; for others, international companies, it can be very lucrative to operate in or through Dubai.
moralestapia 5y ago
I was studying in Saudi Arabia (at KAUST) and my daughter got kidnapped for two weeks when I refused to comply with some work conditions they were trying to impose on me. Granted, the guys that did this were not arabs, they were two professors from Australia and the US, but still, it was weird how everybody turned their back on this as it seemed like the standard procedure to follow when one does not cooperate. WTF. Never do business in/with the Middle East.
- RF_Savage 5y ago
  How do some australian dudes not get trouble from their government for participating/organizing a kidnapping to blackmail somebody? The US persons especially.
  - moralestapia 5y ago
    If you know more about what I could do, please get in touch (email on my profile). I am not from Australia or the US, so I don't really know how to start with such procedure. Also, it was such a traumatic experience that I was truly relieved when me and my family were back at home and safe, I wanted to just forget about it and rebuild my life at the moment. Now I'm in a much better place so I'm looking to, at least, share my story; particularly with young students, like I was at the time, so I could prevent them from going to these places where abuse is common and rampant.
    - RF_Savage 5y ago
      My limited understanding of the US law in regards to this is that if something is illegal in the US, the US persons are liable even if they commit the crime abroad. So they should still be criminally liable. Australia should have something similar, but I know even less about the relevant details. I wish I could be of more help.
  - actionfromafar 5y ago
    Even in the US people get away with all sorts of stuff when there's no evidence.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago

tasha0663 5y ago

Does "fraud" here mean "fraud" there? What is the Arabic word for fraud? Are there multiple words for it with nuanced meanings? I don't know the answers, but I can imagine such an arrangement where saying "I can pay X amount of money owed on my credit card at Y date" and then failing to do so for any variety of reasons could be seen as fraudulent. I think the real LPT is to be darn sure you know the law and the language in strict places, and if you can't, be unreasonably careful.