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> requiring you to have a Microsoft account for future versions of Windows 11. How quickly people forgot about mandatory iTunes activation... > They're still

> requiring you to have a Microsoft account for future versions of Windows 11. How quickly people forgot about mandatory iTunes activation... > They're still the company that force-upgraded users to Windows 10 This is response for all those cries what MS should take the security of the OS seriously. No wonder what after a decade of disabled Windows Update on the endpoints (to conserve resources, to not to receive WPA update so a pirated copy would continue to work, so it wouldn't waste the precious Internet traffic and bunch of other ridiculous reasons) they took the forced approach.

causi 5y ago
But that forced approach only worked on the people who had auto-update enabled. For people like me who had WU disabled it didn't affect me at all.
- justsomehnguy 5y ago
  > For people like me who had WU disabled ... Yes. This is the reason it is so hard to disable WU now. YOU are one of those reasons. > forced approach only worked on the people who had auto-update enabled Also I want to hear what kind of magic should they used to do that on people with WU disabled.
  - robertlagrant 5y ago
    Also the fact that WU breaks things. Might be worth considering that.
  - causi 5y ago
    I would've been one of those people, if I'd ever had a security breach. At this point I've been saved so much time and hassle not putting up with Microsoft's nonsense I could spend a month dealing with a stolen identity and I'd still come out on top. Of course I'm not one of the numpties that runs untrusted JS in my browser or installs rando programs.
    - justsomehnguy 5y ago
      > Of course I'm not one of the numpties that runs untrusted JS in my browser or installs rando programs. You, as the other people in this thread, are forgetting/don't think what 90% of the Windows userbase struggle to distinguish between a click and a double click. Personally I'm not fond on how and where MS directs Windows for the last 8 years, but it's becames totally understandable when you take the sheer number (and ignorance/stupidity) of the userbase.
  - vetinari 5y ago
    There's a reason WHY people disabled WU. Microsoft might consider that, before going with heavy-handed approach.
teh64 5y ago
> mandatory iTunes activation Did macOS ever have mandatory activation? Because I have used it for a long time and have never needed that. You need some way to get a new OS version, which was buying a new macOS version on a disk (back in the day), then on the app store, and then it was a free upgrade from the app store. But you never needed an account to run the actual OS.
- justsomehnguy 5y ago
  iOS, not OSX

causi 5y ago

But that forced approach only worked on the people who had auto-update enabled. For people like me who had WU disabled it didn't affect me at all.

justsomehnguy 5y ago
> For people like me who had WU disabled ... Yes. This is the reason it is so hard to disable WU now. YOU are one of those reasons. > forced approach only worked on the people who had auto-update enabled Also I want to hear what kind of magic should they used to do that on people with WU disabled.
- robertlagrant 5y ago
  Also the fact that WU breaks things. Might be worth considering that.
- causi 5y ago
  I would've been one of those people, if I'd ever had a security breach. At this point I've been saved so much time and hassle not putting up with Microsoft's nonsense I could spend a month dealing with a stolen identity and I'd still come out on top. Of course I'm not one of the numpties that runs untrusted JS in my browser or installs rando programs.
  - justsomehnguy 5y ago
    > Of course I'm not one of the numpties that runs untrusted JS in my browser or installs rando programs. You, as the other people in this thread, are forgetting/don't think what 90% of the Windows userbase struggle to distinguish between a click and a double click. Personally I'm not fond on how and where MS directs Windows for the last 8 years, but it's becames totally understandable when you take the sheer number (and ignorance/stupidity) of the userbase.
- vetinari 5y ago
  There's a reason WHY people disabled WU. Microsoft might consider that, before going with heavy-handed approach.

teh64 5y ago

> mandatory iTunes activation Did macOS ever have mandatory activation? Because I have used it for a long time and have never needed that. You need some way to get a new OS version, which was buying a new macOS version on a disk (back in the day), then on the app store, and then it was a free upgrade from the app store. But you never needed an account to run the actual OS.

justsomehnguy 5y ago
iOS, not OSX