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> This doesn’t necessarily imply that pride has no predictive power Do you realize that in such subtle matters as personal attitudes and feelings there is no w
by aristofun 5y ago
> This doesn’t necessarily imply that pride has no predictive power
Do you realize that in such subtle matters as personal attitudes and feelings there is no way even to properly define the variables, let alone to set up a reproducible experiment?
So we come to my starting point - the word “pride” can have 1000 different flavors for different people, leading to different outcomes. And we can’t possibly measure any correlation because we don’t yet know how to define and detect the subjective.
Then you have unlimited opportunities to write tons of pseudo scientific psychological papers focusing on one “kind” of pride and some group of people, inevitably filtering the observations and words through your own filters.
This is related to fundamental philosophical problem of qualia if you’re interested.
- dpark 5y agoYour analysis here is circular. You essentially state that it’s hard to measure the impact of pride so we shouldn’t try, which sure, you can hold that opinion I guess. But it kind of flies in the face of your original position that it’s not predictive. “Hard to understand” is not at all the same as “meaningless”. This also rings extremely hollow. There’s nothing about your claim that is specific to pride. You can apply your criticism to any aspect of human behavior. Humans are hard to predict. This is not a particularly novel insight.
- aristofun 5y agoThat’s right - you can apply same reasoning to any subjective internal feeling and attitude. This is the fundamental problem in philosophy, unsolved even in principle. May be some day well solve it. But so far it’s just a wordplay. This was exactly my point in the beginning.