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Tangentially, what's the 2022 take on GraphicsMagick vs ImageMagick?

hparadiz 5y ago
ImageMagick I think has more institutional momentum. PHP's imagick extension for example uses it.
klodolph 5y ago
I still use GraphicsMagick. In the past it was a ton faster, apparently ImageMagick changed how they do things and you can’t do a direct comparison any more.
pram 5y ago
I've never even heard of GraphicsMagick until right now.
pininja 5y ago
I’ve been able to make larger image montages in less time with gm compared to im with my MacBook, so I switched. I was surprised by this and could be doing something wrong, but others around me had the same experience for my situation.
JKCalhoun 5y ago
I looked at both tools. They look very cool. Neither seem able to decompose an input image into smaller "tile" images. I have some very large TIFFs that I cannot work with (I can't even open them in some cases!) and I would like to run them through a mill that can "paginate" the larger image into a number of smaller ones.
- jpm48 5y ago
  Have a look at OpenImageIO it may help. The otool can do lots, and if not you may be able to use the API's (C++ or Python) https://openimageio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ https://openimageio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
  - JKCalhoun 5y ago
    Thanks, so many tools to try. On MacOS I ran: % brew install openimageio But have not yet put it to task with my large files.
- pkdpic 5y ago
  Not sure this is of help for enormous files but slapped this ffmpeg script together with a friend a while ago for a similar need to split images for printing. Might point you in a direction at least. Excuse the virtue signaling vibe on the repo. It was a while ago. https://github.com/tombetthauser/protest_signsplitter/blob/master/sign_maker.sh https://github.com/tombetthauser/protest_signsplitter/blob/m...
- joshvm 5y ago
  Take a look at rasterio in Python (best installed using Conda because you need a few tricky dependencies like GDAL). It's designed for geospatial data that can be too large for RAM. You usually open data windows that are smaller views into the image. Ideally you'd have a geotiff but I don't see why it couldn't open a normal one. I've used a variant of this code to tile large aerial surveys for processing. The snippet needs a bit of cleaning but it works out of the box: https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/306861/split-geotiff-into-multiple-cells-with-rasterio https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/306861/split-geotiff...
- thanatos519 5y ago
  Easy-peasy: http://www.graphicsmagick.org/GraphicsMagick.html#details-crop http://www.graphicsmagick.org/GraphicsMagick.html#details-cr... «If the x and y offsets are omitted, a set of tiles of the specified geometry, covering the entire input image, is generated. The rightmost tiles and the bottom tiles are smaller if the specified geometry extends beyond the dimensions of the input image.»
  - tobltobs 5y ago
    The problem with gm and im is that both try to load the complete image into memory.
  - JKCalhoun 5y ago
    Excellent. On MacOS I needed to do: % brew install graphicsmagick % gm convert -crop 32x32 source_image.png +adjoin image_tile%02d.png I'll have to put it through its paces on some large images this weekend.
- tobltobs 5y ago
  I had some very good results with https://www.libvips.org/ https://www.libvips.org/.
  - JKCalhoun 5y ago
    Thanks. On MacOS I just tried: % brew install libvips I have not (yet) had a chance to put it through its paces.
fmakunbound 5y ago
GraphicsMagick used to have an epic critique of ImageMagick. It’s long gone though, except maybe via archive.org
johnvaluk 5y ago
I have a workflow that that depends on complex ImageMagick commands that can take several minutes to run. GraphicsMagick is faster, but ImageMagick produces much higher quality results for my use case, so I stuck with it. Since they forked 20 years ago, neither is a drop-in replacement for the other and each has its own strengths.
EarthIsHome 5y ago
https://stackoverflow.com/a/56220630/2561579 https://stackoverflow.com/a/56220630/2561579 TLDR: * ImageMagick has more questions and follows on StackOverflow (read: better for getting help) * ImageMagick has more features * GraphicsMagick is faster with a caveat that you shouldn't use GraphicsMagick (or ImageMagick for that matter) if speed is important for you

ImageMagick I think has more institutional momentum. PHP's imagick extension for example uses it.

I still use GraphicsMagick. In the past it was a ton faster, apparently ImageMagick changed how they do things and you can’t do a direct comparison any more.

pram 5y ago

I've never even heard of GraphicsMagick until right now.

pininja 5y ago

I’ve been able to make larger image montages in less time with gm compared to im with my MacBook, so I switched. I was surprised by this and could be doing something wrong, but others around me had the same experience for my situation.

JKCalhoun 5y ago

I looked at both tools. They look very cool. Neither seem able to decompose an input image into smaller "tile" images. I have some very large TIFFs that I cannot work with (I can't even open them in some cases!) and I would like to run them through a mill that can "paginate" the larger image into a number of smaller ones.

jpm48 5y ago
Have a look at OpenImageIO it may help. The otool can do lots, and if not you may be able to use the API's (C++ or Python) https://openimageio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ https://openimageio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
- JKCalhoun 5y ago
  Thanks, so many tools to try. On MacOS I ran: % brew install openimageio But have not yet put it to task with my large files.
pkdpic 5y ago
Not sure this is of help for enormous files but slapped this ffmpeg script together with a friend a while ago for a similar need to split images for printing. Might point you in a direction at least. Excuse the virtue signaling vibe on the repo. It was a while ago. https://github.com/tombetthauser/protest_signsplitter/blob/master/sign_maker.sh https://github.com/tombetthauser/protest_signsplitter/blob/m...
joshvm 5y ago
Take a look at rasterio in Python (best installed using Conda because you need a few tricky dependencies like GDAL). It's designed for geospatial data that can be too large for RAM. You usually open data windows that are smaller views into the image. Ideally you'd have a geotiff but I don't see why it couldn't open a normal one. I've used a variant of this code to tile large aerial surveys for processing. The snippet needs a bit of cleaning but it works out of the box: https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/306861/split-geotiff-into-multiple-cells-with-rasterio https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/306861/split-geotiff...
thanatos519 5y ago
Easy-peasy: http://www.graphicsmagick.org/GraphicsMagick.html#details-crop http://www.graphicsmagick.org/GraphicsMagick.html#details-cr... «If the x and y offsets are omitted, a set of tiles of the specified geometry, covering the entire input image, is generated. The rightmost tiles and the bottom tiles are smaller if the specified geometry extends beyond the dimensions of the input image.»
- tobltobs 5y ago
  The problem with gm and im is that both try to load the complete image into memory.
- JKCalhoun 5y ago
  Excellent. On MacOS I needed to do: % brew install graphicsmagick % gm convert -crop 32x32 source_image.png +adjoin image_tile%02d.png I'll have to put it through its paces on some large images this weekend.
tobltobs 5y ago
I had some very good results with https://www.libvips.org/ https://www.libvips.org/.
- JKCalhoun 5y ago
  Thanks. On MacOS I just tried: % brew install libvips I have not (yet) had a chance to put it through its paces.

fmakunbound 5y ago

GraphicsMagick used to have an epic critique of ImageMagick. It’s long gone though, except maybe via archive.org

johnvaluk 5y ago

I have a workflow that that depends on complex ImageMagick commands that can take several minutes to run. GraphicsMagick is faster, but ImageMagick produces much higher quality results for my use case, so I stuck with it. Since they forked 20 years ago, neither is a drop-in replacement for the other and each has its own strengths.

EarthIsHome 5y ago

https://stackoverflow.com/a/56220630/2561579 https://stackoverflow.com/a/56220630/2561579 TLDR: * ImageMagick has more questions and follows on StackOverflow (read: better for getting help) * ImageMagick has more features * GraphicsMagick is faster with a caveat that you shouldn't use GraphicsMagick (or ImageMagick for that matter) if speed is important for you