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How many buildings have the truckers torched? How many people have they injured? How can emergency powers be invoked against peaceful protests? Ideas are not vi

How many buildings have the truckers torched? How many people have they injured? How can emergency powers be invoked against peaceful protests? Ideas are not violence.

akudha 5y ago
Peaceful? Do you realize how loud those horns are? Some of them are using train horns, they are extremely loud. People can’t even get groceries. They are shitting on the sidewalks. They are harassing healthcare workers, women, anyone wearing masks… Whether their accounts should be frozen is a valid debate to be had. But they’re far from well behaved at this point.
- version_five 5y ago
  Honestly, suspending civil liberties is a ridiculously unmatched response to loud horns. It mainly just shows how sheltered the people of ottawa are. And the rest of your post is made up.
  - FireBeyond 5y ago
    So not one person involved in the protests has urinated or defecated outdoors? And not one person involved in the protests has harassed a single person wearing a mask? Tell me more about this amazingly peaceful protest without a single aspect of misbehavior. "Made up"? Citation needed.
    - nameisname 5y ago
      Do you expect a gathering of a ton of random people to remain 100% civil? Like that's not even true of small gatherings. And of course some have pooped on the sidewalks, there's droves of homeless etc. at the center of it. I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.
      - FireBeyond 5y ago
        Nope, I don't expect them to be 100% civil. I also don't go around telling people that point out that, in fact, they're not 100% civil are "making things up".
- refurb 5y ago
  And the bouncy castles! Will someone just get rid of the bouncy castles?
BeefWellington 5y ago
> How many buildings have the truckers torched? I can anticipate the reply, but there's been an attempt of at least one, possibly with ideas about a second.[1][2] > How many people have they injured? This is an interesting phrasing of this. It implies an assault without injury is not an worthy of consideration. The actual answer is not entirely known by anyone outside law enforcement I would guess but there's been a few.[3][4][5] > How can emergency powers be invoked against peaceful protests? Ideas are not violence. Unless your definition of "peaceful" is "the majority of participants are not looting/destroying property or assaulting people", this is not a peaceful protest. The ideas here are not coherent either, nor are the directed at where the changes can happen. As relates to the covid mandates, the Federal government actually only has powers over a handful of areas; the majority are held by the provinces. Indeed, the original precipitating mandate could be dropped tomorrow and it would change basically nothing at the borders because the US government also has the same mandates in place. [1]: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-police-investigating-attempted-arson-in-centretown-high-rise-1.5771579 https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-police-investigating-attemp... [2]: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/mcleod-street-condo-residents-rattled-after-men-seen-attempting-to-handcuff-lobby-doors https://ottawacitizen.com/news/mcleod-street-condo-residents... [3]: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/hate-crime-hotline-ottawa-protests-1.6334163 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/hate-crime-hotline-ott... [4]: https://bc.ctvnews.ca/surrey-rcmp-investigating-alleged-assaults-on-officers-motor-vehicle-violations-in-border-clash-1.5779998 https://bc.ctvnews.ca/surrey-rcmp-investigating-alleged-assa... [5]: https://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/trucker-charged-following-altercation-at-convoy-rally https://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/trucker-charged-follo...

How many buildings have the truckers torched? How many people have they injured? How can emergency powers be invoked against peaceful protests? Ideas are not violence.

akudha 5y ago

Peaceful? Do you realize how loud those horns are? Some of them are using train horns, they are extremely loud. People can’t even get groceries. They are shitting on the sidewalks. They are harassing healthcare workers, women, anyone wearing masks… Whether their accounts should be frozen is a valid debate to be had. But they’re far from well behaved at this point.

version_five 5y ago
Honestly, suspending civil liberties is a ridiculously unmatched response to loud horns. It mainly just shows how sheltered the people of ottawa are. And the rest of your post is made up.
- FireBeyond 5y ago
  So not one person involved in the protests has urinated or defecated outdoors? And not one person involved in the protests has harassed a single person wearing a mask? Tell me more about this amazingly peaceful protest without a single aspect of misbehavior. "Made up"? Citation needed.
  - nameisname 5y ago
    Do you expect a gathering of a ton of random people to remain 100% civil? Like that's not even true of small gatherings. And of course some have pooped on the sidewalks, there's droves of homeless etc. at the center of it. I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.
    - FireBeyond 5y ago
      Nope, I don't expect them to be 100% civil. I also don't go around telling people that point out that, in fact, they're not 100% civil are "making things up".
refurb 5y ago
And the bouncy castles! Will someone just get rid of the bouncy castles?

BeefWellington 5y ago

> How many buildings have the truckers torched? I can anticipate the reply, but there's been an attempt of at least one, possibly with ideas about a second.[1][2] > How many people have they injured? This is an interesting phrasing of this. It implies an assault without injury is not an worthy of consideration. The actual answer is not entirely known by anyone outside law enforcement I would guess but there's been a few.[3][4][5] > How can emergency powers be invoked against peaceful protests? Ideas are not violence. Unless your definition of "peaceful" is "the majority of participants are not looting/destroying property or assaulting people", this is not a peaceful protest. The ideas here are not coherent either, nor are the directed at where the changes can happen. As relates to the covid mandates, the Federal government actually only has powers over a handful of areas; the majority are held by the provinces. Indeed, the original precipitating mandate could be dropped tomorrow and it would change basically nothing at the borders because the US government also has the same mandates in place. [1]: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-police-investigating-attempted-arson-in-centretown-high-rise-1.5771579 https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-police-investigating-attemp... [2]: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/mcleod-street-condo-residents-rattled-after-men-seen-attempting-to-handcuff-lobby-doors https://ottawacitizen.com/news/mcleod-street-condo-residents... [3]: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/hate-crime-hotline-ottawa-protests-1.6334163 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/hate-crime-hotline-ott... [4]: https://bc.ctvnews.ca/surrey-rcmp-investigating-alleged-assaults-on-officers-motor-vehicle-violations-in-border-clash-1.5779998 https://bc.ctvnews.ca/surrey-rcmp-investigating-alleged-assa... [5]: https://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/trucker-charged-following-altercation-at-convoy-rally https://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/trucker-charged-follo...