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Teams is like the most developer-hostile piece of burning rubbish that I have ever had the misfortune to have to use. Sending little code snippets is such an im

Teams is like the most developer-hostile piece of burning rubbish that I have ever had the misfortune to have to use. Sending little code snippets is such an important part of development. If a company has mandated Teams for all communications, you know they cannot be “developer friendly”—some management level is making decisions about what the engineers need. While we’re bashing Teams—why are their notifications some awful custom window that doesn’t respect your OS notification settings?!??!

month13 5y ago
Teams at least is slightly better than Skype For Business, which would hijack copy paste to put the sender's name and for some reason insert zero-width characters between every space.
- silverwind 5y ago
  Copying in Teams is messed up similarily where selecting message content also copies the timestamp and sender name even thought the selection shows otherwise.
  - mianos 5y ago
    It is worse than this, sometimes it does, sometimes it does not.
    - tragictrash 5y ago
      Today when I started typing, my cursor remained in the leftmost position and all of the characters appeared one by one to the right, effectively reversing all the text. I can't make this up.
      - strangegecko 5y ago
        This has happened to me in Gmail before. May be a chrome issue?
      - Corvus 5y ago
        This is the behavior of the Unicode Right-to-Left Override character U+202E. Meant to embed Hebrew or Arabic text, it is most used by hackers to change their exploittxt.exe attachment to read exploitexe.txt
        tragictrash 5y ago
        Negative Ghost Rider, this was teams being teams. I saw that post too. Not applicable here.
  - anm89 5y ago
    You were able to copy in teams?? Tell me the secret! It almost never works for me.
- ethbr0 5y ago
  "Skype for Business" is summed up by the fact that, AFAIK, it's just the old Lync codebase. Which was such a terrible product that they thought they'd be better off getting rid of its own branding and rubbing Skype on it.
  - carlivar 5y ago
    It was so bad, even Microsoft couldn't make it work properly for themselves!
totetsu 5y ago
I love it when the teams "you have a meeting now" notification pops up in front of the meeting lobby window you already have open and blocks you clicking the join meeting button.
- hbn 5y ago
  Or when you're trying to leave a large meeting and everyone is typing "goodbye!" and "thanks!" messages in the chat, blocking your hangup button
muixoozie 5y ago
It also stomps on the .mimeapps.list file every time it starts (in Linux) up even if its already in the list. Annoying for me because mine is a symlink into the read only nix store in NixOS.
mey 5y ago
Not sure when, but on Windows at least, they finally integrated into Windows native alerts. You have to go find and enable the setting which is of by default...
- hackerfromthefu 5y ago
  The native windows alerts are pretty terrible also ..

month13 5y ago

Teams at least is slightly better than Skype For Business, which would hijack copy paste to put the sender's name and for some reason insert zero-width characters between every space.

silverwind 5y ago
Copying in Teams is messed up similarily where selecting message content also copies the timestamp and sender name even thought the selection shows otherwise.
- mianos 5y ago
  It is worse than this, sometimes it does, sometimes it does not.
  - tragictrash 5y ago
    Today when I started typing, my cursor remained in the leftmost position and all of the characters appeared one by one to the right, effectively reversing all the text. I can't make this up.
    - strangegecko 5y ago
      This has happened to me in Gmail before. May be a chrome issue?
    - Corvus 5y ago
      This is the behavior of the Unicode Right-to-Left Override character U+202E. Meant to embed Hebrew or Arabic text, it is most used by hackers to change their exploittxt.exe attachment to read exploitexe.txt
      - tragictrash 5y ago
        Negative Ghost Rider, this was teams being teams. I saw that post too. Not applicable here.
- anm89 5y ago
  You were able to copy in teams?? Tell me the secret! It almost never works for me.
ethbr0 5y ago
"Skype for Business" is summed up by the fact that, AFAIK, it's just the old Lync codebase. Which was such a terrible product that they thought they'd be better off getting rid of its own branding and rubbing Skype on it.
- carlivar 5y ago
  It was so bad, even Microsoft couldn't make it work properly for themselves!

totetsu 5y ago

I love it when the teams "you have a meeting now" notification pops up in front of the meeting lobby window you already have open and blocks you clicking the join meeting button.

hbn 5y ago
Or when you're trying to leave a large meeting and everyone is typing "goodbye!" and "thanks!" messages in the chat, blocking your hangup button

muixoozie 5y ago

It also stomps on the .mimeapps.list file every time it starts (in Linux) up even if its already in the list. Annoying for me because mine is a symlink into the read only nix store in NixOS.

mey 5y ago

Not sure when, but on Windows at least, they finally integrated into Windows native alerts. You have to go find and enable the setting which is of by default...

hackerfromthefu 5y ago
The native windows alerts are pretty terrible also ..