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I too watched Columbo, together with my mom, when I was younger, and later watched some older episodes on my own. At some point at my job I found myself "debugg
by olvy0 5y ago
I too watched Columbo, together with my mom, when I was younger, and later watched some older episodes on my own. At some point at my job I found myself "debugging" people's requests for help/support using his "one last thing" technique.
Especially if they are the type of enthusiastic, semi-sophisticated users, who try to second-guess how the application is written or why it crashed, without actually knowing anything about the code, and often make silly guesses and make suggestions which have little to do with reality.
Before I started doing that, I would often be quite rude to people and cut them off, saying things like "no, that's not how the code works, I know that for a fact because I wrote it, the bug is somewhere else entirely".
Then when I started using it instead, I would stare at them and say something like "oh, well, that's a very interesting option! Why didn't I think of that!" Then shut up for a few seconds like I'm deep in thought, then say "Oh, wait, I just thought of something. Do you mind showing me what you did on that screen again? I apologize but I have just this awful short term memory, can't remember what you wrote on that bug ticket ". Then they would indulge me, and I would say "Oh, wait, stop right there, that gave me a great idea what could have gone wrong, thank you".
And then explain them in some details what caused the bug and how to work around it.
Or I would say "thank you", get up and go after they showed me, and then pause at the door and say "oh, wait, there's this one thing I just thought about, do you mind if we try just one more thing? Sorry for taking your time" and then try the workaround, show them that it works, and explain it.
All this when I actually understood what was the problem a few seconds after they showed me the problem.
So I wasted a few more minutes being nice to this person and pretending I'm kind of dumb, but I know now they will won't be afraid to report future bugs to me or to suggest features, without fearing they will look dumb themselves.
Unfortunately I have to be in the right frame of mind to do this, and lately I've found myself slipping more and more often back to the "that's not how the code works" retorts.
It's good that this came up on NH today, it's a good reminder to try and go back to being a little more Columbo and a little less rude to people who try to be useful to me.
- alar44 5y agoThat's ridiculous. I can't imagine tip toeing around people like that. There's a big difference between being rude and being to the point. What you're describing is manipulative, patronizing, and weird.
- sumtechguy 5y agoSometimes people just want to be heard. Even if they are wrong. Sometimes you will find they are even right and your assumptions are wrong. Stop and listen first then speak. It lets people get the wrong impression of you. Think I got that from Men in Black.
- olvy0 5y agoYeah, it does look like as me being patronizing and creepy, I suppose. My inept social skills showing. But I have no idea how else to deal with those people who genuinely want to help me help them, but keep making suggestions and developing weird theories that aren't connected to reality and which aren't helpful. Everything else I tried just seems to insult them more. In normal day-to-day conversations with most other people (including the same people when we're not in a professional setting) I'm not like that. At least I hope not.
- alar44 5y agoJust stop worrying about it. At the end of the day, they just want their shit fixed. I just explain why their idea isn't the solution. "We could monitor calls before we switched to Bluetooth headsets, I think that might be the problem." Me "Nope, the audio is going through and monitoring is handled on the back end, it's something else." You don't need to explain exactly why, just give em a reasonable answer. It helps them learn (maybe) at the same time. If you're not being a jerk, and their feelings are hurt for some reason, that's on them.
- bryanrasmussen 5y agoI suppose that the parent poster has some difficulties not coming off patronizing and rude, there can be lots of reasons for this, for example your 'nope...' is very dependent on tone of voice, some people might sound like they think someone else is an idiot without meaning to. So, it seems like their way of doing it works to put the user at ease and also themselves at ease. I suggest they keep on doing it the way they are doing it despite it not being the most optimal way possible, optimizing for things can break processes. In other words - if it ain't broke don't fix it.