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I'm not really excited about the prospect of alternate App Store or sideloading. The thing that irritates me about the whole thing however is I feel like we wou

by jamil7 5y ago

I'm not really excited about the prospect of alternate App Store or sideloading. The thing that irritates me about the whole thing however is I feel like we wouldn't be in this position with imminent regulation incoming if Apple executives had not been so stubborn and greedy with App Store policies and completely deaf to developer and user feedback. With some give and take we could have made it work with the App Store but Apple dug their heels in and doubled down on their outdated stance.

aaomidi 5y ago
I on the other hand really am excited. Apple devices turn into expensive ewaste when a country gets sanctioned by the US. There are millions of apple phones in Iran, that can't do anything other than browse the web. There are millions of talented developers in the world that have to avoid iOS because of the $100 fee. Anyway I'm really really really excited for being able to use a general computer as a general computer.
- jamil7 5y ago
  Well I'm not strongly against it either as I recognise other people need/want this feature, just personally as an iOS user and developer I'd rather not deal with it. All your points are valid though and perhaps some real competition will force Apple's hand with regard to improving the App Store, their policies and treatment of third-party developers.
- scarface74 5y ago
  So it’s the $100 a year fee that stops “talented developers” who would also have to have a phone that costs at least $400 and a computer that costs at least $700?
  - callalex 5y ago
    Used and repaired hardware is very common in less wealthy areas.
  - somebodythere 5y ago
    The $700 computer is a big barrier for a lot of people actually!
  - aaomidi 5y ago
    That $100 fee might be literally impossible for people to pay. Iran has a population of ~85 million - you can do the math!
  - curt15 5y ago
    A computer can in principle be shared among several people. Unix is a multi-user system after all.
    - scarface74 5y ago
      A dev account can be shared too…

by jamil7 5y ago

aaomidi 5y ago

I on the other hand really am excited. Apple devices turn into expensive ewaste when a country gets sanctioned by the US. There are millions of apple phones in Iran, that can't do anything other than browse the web. There are millions of talented developers in the world that have to avoid iOS because of the $100 fee. Anyway I'm really really really excited for being able to use a general computer as a general computer.

jamil7 5y ago
Well I'm not strongly against it either as I recognise other people need/want this feature, just personally as an iOS user and developer I'd rather not deal with it. All your points are valid though and perhaps some real competition will force Apple's hand with regard to improving the App Store, their policies and treatment of third-party developers.
scarface74 5y ago
So it’s the $100 a year fee that stops “talented developers” who would also have to have a phone that costs at least $400 and a computer that costs at least $700?
- callalex 5y ago
  Used and repaired hardware is very common in less wealthy areas.
- somebodythere 5y ago
  The $700 computer is a big barrier for a lot of people actually!
- aaomidi 5y ago
  That $100 fee might be literally impossible for people to pay. Iran has a population of ~85 million - you can do the math!
- curt15 5y ago
  A computer can in principle be shared among several people. Unix is a multi-user system after all.
  - scarface74 5y ago
    A dev account can be shared too…