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Sure, but those laws don't always have the intended consequences. Otherwise there would just be a decree that everyone should be nice to each other and not comm

by bko 5y ago

Sure, but those laws don't always have the intended consequences. Otherwise there would just be a decree that everyone should be nice to each other and not commit and crime and be happy. So yes you can pass laws but you can't arbitrarily decree what kind of city you want.

toomuchtodo 5y ago
You absolutely can as long as you’re doing what voters wants. Zoning and city planning is well within the purview of local government.
- bko 5y ago
  First of all, its not clear "the votes want it". I'm sure very few people care besides busy-body politicians looking for "problems" to fix. Put it up to a vote if you're so confident that people don't want the opportunity to use these services. But more importantly, putting everything up to a vote will just lead to oppression by the most vocal people with too much time on their hands. The bar for allowing something shouldn't be "do the majority of people that are involved in this sort of thing want this"? It should be "do enough people benefit from this such that its a viable business"? Then you can make sure the business is following reasonable laws. For instance if the drivers are speeding or breaking noise ordinance, then they should be forced to obey the law. That's the point of the market and that's what the market does well, allocate resources.
  - toomuchtodo 5y ago
    I encourage you to make home where your neighbors align with your value system, versus demanding others change theirs, where their vote is diminished when someone has more fiat than they do (as you’re suggesting “the market” regulate versus elected government). If the market regulated well, Uber would not exist (to name just one zombie firm), having burned $30B in an attempt to reach profitability while leaving social destruction in its wake.
  - dekervin 5y ago
    Those are the right arguments if you want to defend the "market ideology". But "market ideology" is not the law of the land there. Tough luck.

by bko 5y ago

toomuchtodo 5y ago

You absolutely can as long as you’re doing what voters wants. Zoning and city planning is well within the purview of local government.

bko 5y ago
First of all, its not clear "the votes want it". I'm sure very few people care besides busy-body politicians looking for "problems" to fix. Put it up to a vote if you're so confident that people don't want the opportunity to use these services. But more importantly, putting everything up to a vote will just lead to oppression by the most vocal people with too much time on their hands. The bar for allowing something shouldn't be "do the majority of people that are involved in this sort of thing want this"? It should be "do enough people benefit from this such that its a viable business"? Then you can make sure the business is following reasonable laws. For instance if the drivers are speeding or breaking noise ordinance, then they should be forced to obey the law. That's the point of the market and that's what the market does well, allocate resources.
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  I encourage you to make home where your neighbors align with your value system, versus demanding others change theirs, where their vote is diminished when someone has more fiat than they do (as you’re suggesting “the market” regulate versus elected government). If the market regulated well, Uber would not exist (to name just one zombie firm), having burned $30B in an attempt to reach profitability while leaving social destruction in its wake.
- dekervin 5y ago
  Those are the right arguments if you want to defend the "market ideology". But "market ideology" is not the law of the land there. Tough luck.