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I love that they don't change anything. Social media services like Reddit that change things eventually change into shit.

lolinder 5y ago
They don't change nothing, but they're very careful when they introduce a change. Most are so subtle you wouldn't notice, and that's the point. Some in recent memory I can think of: * prev/next/parent links * Show HN can now have both a text body and a link (they used to only have a link and you had to submit a reply with your explanation)
- krapp 5y ago
  >Most are so subtle you wouldn't notice, and that's the point. That can't be the point. There's no reason to introduce new features with the expectation that no one will ever notice or use them. Honestly, I think this forum cargo-cults its "minimalist" aesthetic far too much.
  - civilized 5y ago
    Obviously GP comment is saying you don't notice because the changes integrate so well into the existing system, not saying it's desirable for users to literally not notice the features. Otherwise the maintainers of HN are morons introducing features that no one will use. Honestly... nitpicking comments with some dumb hyper-literal interpretation to find something tiny and pointless to disagree about is an aspect of HN I could do without.
    - krapp 5y ago
      > Obviously he's saying you don't notice because the changes integrate so well into the existing system. Yes, to the point that people literally never notice them, which is (or should be considered) a problem. People still complain that HN lacks thread folding, even though the feature's been deployed for months. They don't see the links or never bother clicking them. People have been here for years and never noticed the site has a footer with links to other features. That's not a feature of elegant integration, it's the fault of a purposely obscurant layout. >Nitpicking comments to find something tiny and pointless to disagree about is an aspect of HN I could do without. As is the assumption that all criticism of HN and its features is pointless nitpicking. Be less defensive.
      - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
        > People still complain that HN lacks thread folding, even though the feature's been deployed for months. how many people complain versus how many complained before the feature was introduced? That some people don't notice a change means not so much.
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- ycombinete 5y ago
  I'm constantly tapping these prev/next links while browsing on my phone, when I try to tap the collapse [-].
- masklinn 5y ago
  > Most are so subtle you wouldn't notice I certainly notice every time I fat finger these useless links.
  - ggambetta 5y ago
    I find them very useful. Whenever I've gone deep enough in a comment thread, I use the "parent" link to navigate to its root, and then I either collapse it or use the "next" link to read the next thread.
- Cd00d 5y ago
  Lol - I never noticed the parent/prev/next links. That parent one is super useful! Sometimes I go too deep in a discussion and realize I don't want to be there but can't find my way back easily by eyeballing the indent depth of the comments. Thanks for the lesson!
shafyy 5y ago
Last night I had a dream that HN had a new UI. Time to spend less time on HN.
- dang 5y ago
  What did it look like?
  - pvg 5y ago
    Mildly related but your love of 'illusion' like here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30367395 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30367395 makes me think of this (possibly too glamorous) video of how I imagine HN moderation goes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY4cVhXxW64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY4cVhXxW64
  - shafyy 5y ago
    Sorry, missed your comment (haha). I don't recall it in full detail, but just remembered it look like a more modern UI with rounded corners and more padding. But still the same colors and functionalities.

lolinder 5y ago

They don't change nothing, but they're very careful when they introduce a change. Most are so subtle you wouldn't notice, and that's the point. Some in recent memory I can think of: * prev/next/parent links * Show HN can now have both a text body and a link (they used to only have a link and you had to submit a reply with your explanation)

krapp 5y ago
>Most are so subtle you wouldn't notice, and that's the point. That can't be the point. There's no reason to introduce new features with the expectation that no one will ever notice or use them. Honestly, I think this forum cargo-cults its "minimalist" aesthetic far too much.
- civilized 5y ago
  Obviously GP comment is saying you don't notice because the changes integrate so well into the existing system, not saying it's desirable for users to literally not notice the features. Otherwise the maintainers of HN are morons introducing features that no one will use. Honestly... nitpicking comments with some dumb hyper-literal interpretation to find something tiny and pointless to disagree about is an aspect of HN I could do without.
  - krapp 5y ago
    > Obviously he's saying you don't notice because the changes integrate so well into the existing system. Yes, to the point that people literally never notice them, which is (or should be considered) a problem. People still complain that HN lacks thread folding, even though the feature's been deployed for months. They don't see the links or never bother clicking them. People have been here for years and never noticed the site has a footer with links to other features. That's not a feature of elegant integration, it's the fault of a purposely obscurant layout. >Nitpicking comments to find something tiny and pointless to disagree about is an aspect of HN I could do without. As is the assumption that all criticism of HN and its features is pointless nitpicking. Be less defensive.
    - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
      > People still complain that HN lacks thread folding, even though the feature's been deployed for months. how many people complain versus how many complained before the feature was introduced? That some people don't notice a change means not so much.
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ycombinete 5y ago
I'm constantly tapping these prev/next links while browsing on my phone, when I try to tap the collapse [-].
masklinn 5y ago
> Most are so subtle you wouldn't notice I certainly notice every time I fat finger these useless links.
- ggambetta 5y ago
  I find them very useful. Whenever I've gone deep enough in a comment thread, I use the "parent" link to navigate to its root, and then I either collapse it or use the "next" link to read the next thread.
Cd00d 5y ago
Lol - I never noticed the parent/prev/next links. That parent one is super useful! Sometimes I go too deep in a discussion and realize I don't want to be there but can't find my way back easily by eyeballing the indent depth of the comments. Thanks for the lesson!

shafyy 5y ago

Last night I had a dream that HN had a new UI. Time to spend less time on HN.

dang 5y ago
What did it look like?
- pvg 5y ago
  Mildly related but your love of 'illusion' like here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30367395 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30367395 makes me think of this (possibly too glamorous) video of how I imagine HN moderation goes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY4cVhXxW64 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY4cVhXxW64
- shafyy 5y ago
  Sorry, missed your comment (haha). I don't recall it in full detail, but just remembered it look like a more modern UI with rounded corners and more padding. But still the same colors and functionalities.