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It is a platitude, not toxic. Being a "pro sportsteam" on the other hand could be considered toxic. I know of no more cut throat legal business than sports. Th

It is a platitude, not toxic. Being a "pro sportsteam" on the other hand could be considered toxic. I know of no more cut throat legal business than sports. They are aggressivly signaling that they push KPI missers out.

logifail 5y ago
Q: Is wanting to succeed considered a bad thing?
- rightbyte 5y ago
  If we are talking NHL level exceptations at my dayjob, ye, it is a bad thing. Especially as there are no way of rating programmers as fairly as sportsmen.
  - jasonladuke0311 5y ago
    > Especially as there are no way of rating programmers as fairly as sportsmen. Oh boy, I guess you don’t follow sports too closely. There is endless debate about rankings and player value and statistics. But I am digressing.
  - l33t2328 5y ago
    > If we are talking NHL level exceptations at my dayjob, ye, it is a bad thing I would love to work in an extremely competitive environment where slackers are punished.
ivan_gammel 5y ago
Systematic KPI missers must leave in any company: it is hard to understand why it could be otherwise, if you are not living in North Korea or Cuba. People who make one honest mistake or have a bad quarter due to family issues but otherwise are great performers fit in their culture, they explicitly mention that in slides.
- rightbyte 5y ago
  They write that "we cut smartly to have stars in every position". That is dellusional. Probably works well in NHL when you draft each year anyway and players do the same thing, like dentists. My belief is that continuation is way more important than stars. Especially since recruiting (and not fireing) stars is a more or less random process anyway. I imply unreasonable KPIs. Also, "right to work" has more in common with North Korean job safety (i.e. none) than say Spannish dito.
  - ivan_gammel 5y ago
    They explain in detail what does this mean in presentation.
- cvlasdkv 5y ago
nonameiguess 5y ago
This isn't exactly true. Other than NFL, American pro sports have pretty strong unions, and even if you get cut, you still get paid. You might even get paid more, even though you're not working. Netflix doesn't give out guaranteed contracts that continue to pay you even after you get fired.
- rightbyte 5y ago
  Oh didn't know that interesting. I just assumed it was like corporate US, but a bit "more" due to the competitive nature. I guess Netflix choose the wrong analogy then with all their sports metaphors. Reading the whole slide back to back, I am a bit disgusted. It is so smug. It is trying to be brutally honest, but it feels more like a cult pep-talk. The place like doubled it workforce in four years -- there is not way to be elite after that, even if they were before ...

logifail 5y ago

Q: Is wanting to succeed considered a bad thing?

rightbyte 5y ago
If we are talking NHL level exceptations at my dayjob, ye, it is a bad thing. Especially as there are no way of rating programmers as fairly as sportsmen.
- jasonladuke0311 5y ago
  > Especially as there are no way of rating programmers as fairly as sportsmen. Oh boy, I guess you don’t follow sports too closely. There is endless debate about rankings and player value and statistics. But I am digressing.
- l33t2328 5y ago
  > If we are talking NHL level exceptations at my dayjob, ye, it is a bad thing I would love to work in an extremely competitive environment where slackers are punished.

ivan_gammel 5y ago

Systematic KPI missers must leave in any company: it is hard to understand why it could be otherwise, if you are not living in North Korea or Cuba. People who make one honest mistake or have a bad quarter due to family issues but otherwise are great performers fit in their culture, they explicitly mention that in slides.

rightbyte 5y ago
They write that "we cut smartly to have stars in every position". That is dellusional. Probably works well in NHL when you draft each year anyway and players do the same thing, like dentists. My belief is that continuation is way more important than stars. Especially since recruiting (and not fireing) stars is a more or less random process anyway. I imply unreasonable KPIs. Also, "right to work" has more in common with North Korean job safety (i.e. none) than say Spannish dito.
- ivan_gammel 5y ago
  They explain in detail what does this mean in presentation.
cvlasdkv 5y ago

nonameiguess 5y ago

This isn't exactly true. Other than NFL, American pro sports have pretty strong unions, and even if you get cut, you still get paid. You might even get paid more, even though you're not working. Netflix doesn't give out guaranteed contracts that continue to pay you even after you get fired.

rightbyte 5y ago
Oh didn't know that interesting. I just assumed it was like corporate US, but a bit "more" due to the competitive nature. I guess Netflix choose the wrong analogy then with all their sports metaphors. Reading the whole slide back to back, I am a bit disgusted. It is so smug. It is trying to be brutally honest, but it feels more like a cult pep-talk. The place like doubled it workforce in four years -- there is not way to be elite after that, even if they were before ...