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I’ve personally experienced phenomena where telepathy and ghosts were respectively the most parsimonious explanation of the observables. However, by far the str

by User23 5y ago

I’ve personally experienced phenomena where telepathy and ghosts were respectively the most parsimonious explanation of the observables. However, by far the strangest was when I was instantly healed of a muscle injury from weightlifting by transferring that exact injury to another person by touch. I know that sounds far-fetched and I wouldn’t believe me either if I hadn’t experienced it myself. My counterparty was ticked off to say the least. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

euroderf 5y ago
Telepathy is doomed to skepticism, because it is not reliably reproducible, because its means of transmission is an imperfect vessel, the human mind.
- vimacs2 5y ago
  I know it's a meme at this point but I wonder if Deep Learning could possibly brute force patterns in the 150 years of data that the Noetic sciences have accumulated. They keep finding a small but statistically significant effect and even performing every possible means to tamper or bias proof the experiments, the effect remains. On top of that, there is absolutely no coherent scientific model to account for this so currently the most probable explanation is still that there is some unaccounted for environmental influence causing the effect. It's frankly frustrating which is why I kind of fell out of interest in the entire field.
voldacar 5y ago
>instantly healed of a muscle injury from weightlifting by transferring that exact injury to another person Could you elaborate on that? It sounds... useful I've had exactly one experience that involved an unexplainable phenomenon but it was extremely mundane and uninteresting, and since memories fade I sometimes have to mentally slap myself into recognizing that it really did happen. But 99% of "paranormal" info is fake garbage so I don't really dig into the topic
- User23 5y ago
  > Could you elaborate on that? It sounds... useful Not much. It was a moderately severe strain of the intercostals on the left side of my ribcage. It’s a really unpleasant injury because it hurts badly whenever you perform an action that involves the ribs. As for the transference itself, it was a complete accident. The other person was attempting to provide some relief via manual therapy. This being a very light touch intervention, not the kind of activity that could easily cause a strain. And it worked surprisingly well. The other person then had the same debilitating injury I'd had for about a week, which was about my projected remaining recovery time. It’s very much not something I’d do intentionally. I follow what you mean by useful, but someone who did such a thing regularly would belong in a horror novel and not out among decent people. It’s practically a defining characteristic of these phenomena that we don’t know how they happen or how to consistently produce them, which makes systematic rigorous investigation difficult if not entirely impossible. I still try to view the world rationally though. It's a powerful tool for pragmatically grasping most phenomena. I'm just cognizent that it's an incomplete paradigm. Also, for what it's worth, these paranormal phenomena, or whatever you want to call them, are relatively rare.

by User23 5y ago

euroderf 5y ago

Telepathy is doomed to skepticism, because it is not reliably reproducible, because its means of transmission is an imperfect vessel, the human mind.

vimacs2 5y ago
I know it's a meme at this point but I wonder if Deep Learning could possibly brute force patterns in the 150 years of data that the Noetic sciences have accumulated. They keep finding a small but statistically significant effect and even performing every possible means to tamper or bias proof the experiments, the effect remains. On top of that, there is absolutely no coherent scientific model to account for this so currently the most probable explanation is still that there is some unaccounted for environmental influence causing the effect. It's frankly frustrating which is why I kind of fell out of interest in the entire field.

voldacar 5y ago

>instantly healed of a muscle injury from weightlifting by transferring that exact injury to another person Could you elaborate on that? It sounds... useful I've had exactly one experience that involved an unexplainable phenomenon but it was extremely mundane and uninteresting, and since memories fade I sometimes have to mentally slap myself into recognizing that it really did happen. But 99% of "paranormal" info is fake garbage so I don't really dig into the topic

User23 5y ago
> Could you elaborate on that? It sounds... useful Not much. It was a moderately severe strain of the intercostals on the left side of my ribcage. It’s a really unpleasant injury because it hurts badly whenever you perform an action that involves the ribs. As for the transference itself, it was a complete accident. The other person was attempting to provide some relief via manual therapy. This being a very light touch intervention, not the kind of activity that could easily cause a strain. And it worked surprisingly well. The other person then had the same debilitating injury I'd had for about a week, which was about my projected remaining recovery time. It’s very much not something I’d do intentionally. I follow what you mean by useful, but someone who did such a thing regularly would belong in a horror novel and not out among decent people. It’s practically a defining characteristic of these phenomena that we don’t know how they happen or how to consistently produce them, which makes systematic rigorous investigation difficult if not entirely impossible. I still try to view the world rationally though. It's a powerful tool for pragmatically grasping most phenomena. I'm just cognizent that it's an incomplete paradigm. Also, for what it's worth, these paranormal phenomena, or whatever you want to call them, are relatively rare.