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I really don't get why motorcycles are legal at all - loud, terrible emissions, used for crimes, huge fatality rate, usually driven by a psychopath who loves re

I really don't get why motorcycles are legal at all - loud, terrible emissions, used for crimes, huge fatality rate, usually driven by a psychopath who loves revving his toy at 5AM at a residential neighbourhood.

kojeovo 5y ago
Those things you listed are pretty much already illegal: Loud motorcycles with poor emissions. As for the fatality rate, it's mainly only impacting the driver. Forcing them to a car is arguably worse.
- kelnos 5y ago
  > Those things you listed are pretty much already illegal: Loud motorcycles with poor emissions. Good luck getting police to enforce that, though.
  - kojeovo 5y ago
    Yeah enforcement is usually the issue. We are commenting on an article about a new way to enforce though
rabuse 5y ago
"Used for crimes!". This sounds like that standard argument against crypto, when cash (cars) have done that since their inception.
ddoolin 5y ago
> used for crimes This gave me a chuckle. I have absolutely no data but I'm quite certain cars are "used for crimes" at a much higher rate than motorcycles. Motorcycles are almost all manual, nearly invisible to other drivers, and prone to issues with the smallest of road hazards/obstacles, making them really risky to use as a getaway vehicle seeing as you'd need to be outpacing law enforcement much of the time. Add the adrenaline of "doing a crime" on top of that of high-speed motorcycle riding and you've really got a recipe for disaster in most cases. There was a stolen bike in LA being chased by the cops last month who collided with a car and the rider died. https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2022-01-24/motorcycle-crash-los-angeles-chase-essential-california https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2022-01-24/mot... Maybe being "used for crimes" would be better since you're less likely to actually get away on them!
- zucked 5y ago
  I think the OP is a little hyperbolic, but I wouldn't be so dismissive of the idea. My metro has a no-chase policy for motorcycles. Sure, it's a heck of a dangerous way to make a getaway, but as long as you can shake the first guy, a rider is pretty well free to make a getaway as long as there is no helicopter in pursuit.
  - ddoolin 5y ago
    Touché, I remember hearing about such a policy for the first time recently. That certainly could change the value proposition quite a bit!
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  > recipe for disaster in most cases. hence why it wouldn't be legal if invented now (well probably most things won't) good comparison would be passenger drones - super useful, universally hated, regulated to death.
driverdan 5y ago
I really don't get why computers are legal at all - create excess emissions from all the power use, used for crimes, generate hard to process waste, usually used by a psychopath who loves Tweeting about hatred for people not like them.

kojeovo 5y ago

Those things you listed are pretty much already illegal: Loud motorcycles with poor emissions. As for the fatality rate, it's mainly only impacting the driver. Forcing them to a car is arguably worse.

kelnos 5y ago
> Those things you listed are pretty much already illegal: Loud motorcycles with poor emissions. Good luck getting police to enforce that, though.
- kojeovo 5y ago
  Yeah enforcement is usually the issue. We are commenting on an article about a new way to enforce though

rabuse 5y ago

"Used for crimes!". This sounds like that standard argument against crypto, when cash (cars) have done that since their inception.

ddoolin 5y ago

> used for crimes This gave me a chuckle. I have absolutely no data but I'm quite certain cars are "used for crimes" at a much higher rate than motorcycles. Motorcycles are almost all manual, nearly invisible to other drivers, and prone to issues with the smallest of road hazards/obstacles, making them really risky to use as a getaway vehicle seeing as you'd need to be outpacing law enforcement much of the time. Add the adrenaline of "doing a crime" on top of that of high-speed motorcycle riding and you've really got a recipe for disaster in most cases. There was a stolen bike in LA being chased by the cops last month who collided with a car and the rider died. https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2022-01-24/motorcycle-crash-los-angeles-chase-essential-california https://www.latimes.com/california/newsletter/2022-01-24/mot... Maybe being "used for crimes" would be better since you're less likely to actually get away on them!

zucked 5y ago
I think the OP is a little hyperbolic, but I wouldn't be so dismissive of the idea. My metro has a no-chase policy for motorcycles. Sure, it's a heck of a dangerous way to make a getaway, but as long as you can shake the first guy, a rider is pretty well free to make a getaway as long as there is no helicopter in pursuit.
- ddoolin 5y ago
  Touché, I remember hearing about such a policy for the first time recently. That certainly could change the value proposition quite a bit!
dzhiurgis 5y ago
> recipe for disaster in most cases. hence why it wouldn't be legal if invented now (well probably most things won't) good comparison would be passenger drones - super useful, universally hated, regulated to death.

driverdan 5y ago

I really don't get why computers are legal at all - create excess emissions from all the power use, used for crimes, generate hard to process waste, usually used by a psychopath who loves Tweeting about hatred for people not like them.