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Excellent links - thank you so much for the resources. I'm very excited to see what the Pinephone Pro brings as a platform to build towards in this regard. I'm

Excellent links - thank you so much for the resources. I'm very excited to see what the Pinephone Pro brings as a platform to build towards in this regard. I'm already eyeing shipping some apps on Flathub! I hope the React Native => Flathub pipeline gets built out, similar to what Ubuntu is doing with Flutter => Snap. Exciting times!

FpUser 5y ago
I am very displeased by Snap being shoved down one's throat on Ubuntu. This has caused me to actually abandon Ubuntu completely. Linux mint and Debian now.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  Me too. The app startup times in particular make it a pain. And the pollution of the mount table and worse integration an annoyance. I still use it for servers as everything I use is available in apt anyway. But some desktop packages are only in snaps now.
  - FpUser 5y ago
    I replaced it on servers as well. Not immediately but after some extensive testing. I do not want to one day end up in a situation when snap will start displacing things on server as well and do auto updates.
- jandrese 5y ago
  I’m kind of expecting snaps to be a fad on Ubuntu. They really don’t seem to buy much and have nontrivial overhead.
  - account42 5y ago
    Canonical really likes to develop their own technologies for some reason rather than use RedHat's. Upstart vs. SystemD, Mir vs. Wayland, Snap vs. Flatpak. Ideally there should be one standard for each with perhaps multiple implementations but for some reason it takes a lot of time wasted on duplicated effort before Canonical gives up. Not sure who really is making better cooperation here impossible but so far it seams RedHat's versions tend to be winning in the end, probably because they at least pretend to be openly developed with community involvement and don't focus on just one distro.
- Silhouette 5y ago
  Seems like snaps were trying to solve a relevant problem (keeping software up-to-date quietly and automatically) but have a deeply flawed implementation. Almost daily I'll have Chromium suddenly completely break to the degree that it needs immediately restarting, losing all my open tabs/groups/auth. Working remotely with lots of web apps, this is a terrible experience for users!
pinephoneguy 5y ago
I will never run your app if you build it this way, that sounds absolutely awful. Just write a GTK app or if that's too hard a CLI app since the CLI is first class on the PinePhone.

FpUser 5y ago

I am very displeased by Snap being shoved down one's throat on Ubuntu. This has caused me to actually abandon Ubuntu completely. Linux mint and Debian now.

GekkePrutser 5y ago
Me too. The app startup times in particular make it a pain. And the pollution of the mount table and worse integration an annoyance. I still use it for servers as everything I use is available in apt anyway. But some desktop packages are only in snaps now.
- FpUser 5y ago
  I replaced it on servers as well. Not immediately but after some extensive testing. I do not want to one day end up in a situation when snap will start displacing things on server as well and do auto updates.
jandrese 5y ago
I’m kind of expecting snaps to be a fad on Ubuntu. They really don’t seem to buy much and have nontrivial overhead.
- account42 5y ago
  Canonical really likes to develop their own technologies for some reason rather than use RedHat's. Upstart vs. SystemD, Mir vs. Wayland, Snap vs. Flatpak. Ideally there should be one standard for each with perhaps multiple implementations but for some reason it takes a lot of time wasted on duplicated effort before Canonical gives up. Not sure who really is making better cooperation here impossible but so far it seams RedHat's versions tend to be winning in the end, probably because they at least pretend to be openly developed with community involvement and don't focus on just one distro.
Silhouette 5y ago
Seems like snaps were trying to solve a relevant problem (keeping software up-to-date quietly and automatically) but have a deeply flawed implementation. Almost daily I'll have Chromium suddenly completely break to the degree that it needs immediately restarting, losing all my open tabs/groups/auth. Working remotely with lots of web apps, this is a terrible experience for users!

pinephoneguy 5y ago

I will never run your app if you build it this way, that sounds absolutely awful. Just write a GTK app or if that's too hard a CLI app since the CLI is first class on the PinePhone.