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Desperately need these in San Francisco. These cars and motorcycles that have been modified to be super loud are a menace. If you want to modify your vehicle f

Desperately need these in San Francisco. These cars and motorcycles that have been modified to be super loud are a menace. If you want to modify your vehicle for performance on the racetrack, fine. But when you leave the racetrack, make it compliant again.

et-al 5y ago
Unfortunately we won't even allow speed enforcement cameras, so this seems unlikely. https://cal.streetsblog.org/2021/05/21/california-wont-be-getting-speed-enforcement-cameras/ https://cal.streetsblog.org/2021/05/21/california-wont-be-ge...
- fshbbdssbbgdd 5y ago
  I wouldn’t be so sure. The interest group of speeders may be much larger than the interest group of loud pipes.
  - et-al 5y ago
    You're right. It's not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.
- diebeforei485 5y ago
  Public opinion is changing. Someone ran a red light at the intersection of Franklin and Union and killed a teacher right in front of a school recently. In New York City, speed cameras started in school zones. I think that's an excellent place to start.
  - tommoor 5y ago
    Agreed, let's say all intersections within a mile of a school? ;-)
- bradlys 5y ago
  I wouldn’t have an issue with speed cameras in certain places if we had reasonable speed limits. Problem is - we set speed limits quite low in California. 101 is 55mph for major portions of it. Yet, ain’t no one going 55 because there’s no reason to. We all can safely drive on it at 75 and that’s the prevailing speed right now regardless of what the signs say. Even 75 is low for many and you can go 85+ with no real increase in risk many times. Speed limits like most laws are often set for the lowest common denominator, to harvest tax money, and/or as reactionary adjustments rather than based on reason/studies.
JohnTHaller 5y ago
I'd wager you have fart cars out there like we do in NYC now, right?
bradlys 5y ago
> Desperately need these in San Francisco. These cars and motorcycles that have been modified to be super loud are a menace. > If you want to modify your vehicle for performance on the racetrack, fine. But when you leave the racetrack, make it compliant again. I can almost guarantee the cars you're annoyed with are mostly clapped out V8 Mustangs, Camaros, Challengers, etc. and large v-twin bikes like Harleys (I mean - they're probably literally Harleys). If that's the case then you can bet that these cars and motorcycles have never and will never see a racetrack - or likely even a backroad at a spirited pace for any period of their life. All of the really loud cars and bikes I hear in SF are not performance oriented. The performance oriented ones... they go by before you even really register it. (Again - the whole point of performance cars is to go fast - not just slowly build RPMs from 10-30mph)

et-al 5y ago

Unfortunately we won't even allow speed enforcement cameras, so this seems unlikely. https://cal.streetsblog.org/2021/05/21/california-wont-be-getting-speed-enforcement-cameras/ https://cal.streetsblog.org/2021/05/21/california-wont-be-ge...

fshbbdssbbgdd 5y ago
I wouldn’t be so sure. The interest group of speeders may be much larger than the interest group of loud pipes.
- et-al 5y ago
  You're right. It's not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.
diebeforei485 5y ago
Public opinion is changing. Someone ran a red light at the intersection of Franklin and Union and killed a teacher right in front of a school recently. In New York City, speed cameras started in school zones. I think that's an excellent place to start.
- tommoor 5y ago
  Agreed, let's say all intersections within a mile of a school? ;-)
bradlys 5y ago
I wouldn’t have an issue with speed cameras in certain places if we had reasonable speed limits. Problem is - we set speed limits quite low in California. 101 is 55mph for major portions of it. Yet, ain’t no one going 55 because there’s no reason to. We all can safely drive on it at 75 and that’s the prevailing speed right now regardless of what the signs say. Even 75 is low for many and you can go 85+ with no real increase in risk many times. Speed limits like most laws are often set for the lowest common denominator, to harvest tax money, and/or as reactionary adjustments rather than based on reason/studies.

JohnTHaller 5y ago

I'd wager you have fart cars out there like we do in NYC now, right?

bradlys 5y ago

> Desperately need these in San Francisco. These cars and motorcycles that have been modified to be super loud are a menace. > If you want to modify your vehicle for performance on the racetrack, fine. But when you leave the racetrack, make it compliant again. I can almost guarantee the cars you're annoyed with are mostly clapped out V8 Mustangs, Camaros, Challengers, etc. and large v-twin bikes like Harleys (I mean - they're probably literally Harleys). If that's the case then you can bet that these cars and motorcycles have never and will never see a racetrack - or likely even a backroad at a spirited pace for any period of their life. All of the really loud cars and bikes I hear in SF are not performance oriented. The performance oriented ones... they go by before you even really register it. (Again - the whole point of performance cars is to go fast - not just slowly build RPMs from 10-30mph)