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Forget Azure. Even Outlook/Teams flips apps between Teams/MSAuthenticator over and over. My iPhone goes into strange loops. Sometimes, its logged-out but doesnt

Forget Azure. Even Outlook/Teams flips apps between Teams/MSAuthenticator over and over. My iPhone goes into strange loops. Sometimes, its logged-out but doesnt show it and just doesnt update anything. Its nuts how vast the chasm is between Azure/Outlook/Teams vs AWS/Google.

bogwog 5y ago
There’s nothing more frustrating to me than seeing a billion/trillion dollar company being so lazy. That’s like spitting in the face of capitalism.
- k_sze 5y ago
  Nope. This is capitalism working as intended. They keep making money regardless of how crappy their products are. The problem is that those who suffer are not the ones making the purchase decision.
  - bogwog 5y ago
    Capitalism allocates society's wealth towards the most productive members, in order to promote more productivity (in theory anyways). Microsoft has collected a massive amount of wealth, yet they're not being productive with it. In effect, they're wasting society's time since we aren't getting a return for that investment. That's unforgivable since people only live for a few decades, so Microsoft's misuse of wealth means that other businesses/individuals who would've used it to produce new/better technologies aren't able to. It's laziness, which is one of the worst traits a member of a capitalist society can have, and it's especially heinous when it's a trait possessed by an actor in such a powerful position. Thus, many of us will die without ever seeing a real hoverboard. So when you're on your deathbed and you don't have a hoverboard, know that it's Microsoft's fault (and the government regulators who should've stopped them). EDIT: Also applies to Apple, Google, Amazon, etc.
    - zwirbl 5y ago
      This explanation sounds like capitalism is a thinking being
    - ako 5y ago
      That is not what capitalism is, according to wiki: "Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit." There's nothing in here about allocating wealth, or promoting productivity. It's all about private ownership. The owner decides how to make money, and what to do with the profits. If they decide to use it for non-productive goals, that's the freedom of the owner. Capitalism is to opposite of a society consciously allocating anything for a specific purpose, it leaves it up to every individual.
      - bogwog 5y ago
        Private wealth is just an implementation detail of capitalism. An economic system’s purpose is to determine where the wealth goes, since the whole point of an economy is to share resources (e.g. so people don’t have to grow their own food) > Capitalism is to opposite of a society consciously allocating anything for a specific purpose, it leaves it up to every individual. Yeah, capitalism doesn’t use central planning. It’s a decentralized system in its purest form (real world requires regulators though), however it still is a system designed to answer the question: “who gets what?”
        ako 5y ago
        I'd say the purpose of capitalism is not to decide "who gets what", but rather to lay the foundation that the society/country as a whole get as much as possible.
        krapp 5y ago
        The purpose of capitalism is to transfer wealth created by the labor class to the capitalist class. Every other effect is secondary and incidental.
        5y ago
  - aaaaaaaaata 5y ago
    What is the best way, as a SaaS that addresses pain points predominantly for the end user, to market the product to the people with purchasing power?
weq 5y ago
MS grew out of the enterprise, where as AWS/Google exploited the massses. Im liking how Password rotation becoming a thing of the past because of this.

bogwog 5y ago

There’s nothing more frustrating to me than seeing a billion/trillion dollar company being so lazy. That’s like spitting in the face of capitalism.

k_sze 5y ago
Nope. This is capitalism working as intended. They keep making money regardless of how crappy their products are. The problem is that those who suffer are not the ones making the purchase decision.
- bogwog 5y ago
  Capitalism allocates society's wealth towards the most productive members, in order to promote more productivity (in theory anyways). Microsoft has collected a massive amount of wealth, yet they're not being productive with it. In effect, they're wasting society's time since we aren't getting a return for that investment. That's unforgivable since people only live for a few decades, so Microsoft's misuse of wealth means that other businesses/individuals who would've used it to produce new/better technologies aren't able to. It's laziness, which is one of the worst traits a member of a capitalist society can have, and it's especially heinous when it's a trait possessed by an actor in such a powerful position. Thus, many of us will die without ever seeing a real hoverboard. So when you're on your deathbed and you don't have a hoverboard, know that it's Microsoft's fault (and the government regulators who should've stopped them). EDIT: Also applies to Apple, Google, Amazon, etc.
  - zwirbl 5y ago
    This explanation sounds like capitalism is a thinking being
  - ako 5y ago
    That is not what capitalism is, according to wiki: "Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit." There's nothing in here about allocating wealth, or promoting productivity. It's all about private ownership. The owner decides how to make money, and what to do with the profits. If they decide to use it for non-productive goals, that's the freedom of the owner. Capitalism is to opposite of a society consciously allocating anything for a specific purpose, it leaves it up to every individual.
    - bogwog 5y ago
      Private wealth is just an implementation detail of capitalism. An economic system’s purpose is to determine where the wealth goes, since the whole point of an economy is to share resources (e.g. so people don’t have to grow their own food) > Capitalism is to opposite of a society consciously allocating anything for a specific purpose, it leaves it up to every individual. Yeah, capitalism doesn’t use central planning. It’s a decentralized system in its purest form (real world requires regulators though), however it still is a system designed to answer the question: “who gets what?”
      - ako 5y ago
        I'd say the purpose of capitalism is not to decide "who gets what", but rather to lay the foundation that the society/country as a whole get as much as possible.
        krapp 5y ago
        The purpose of capitalism is to transfer wealth created by the labor class to the capitalist class. Every other effect is secondary and incidental.
        5y ago
- aaaaaaaaata 5y ago
  What is the best way, as a SaaS that addresses pain points predominantly for the end user, to market the product to the people with purchasing power?

weq 5y ago

MS grew out of the enterprise, where as AWS/Google exploited the massses. Im liking how Password rotation becoming a thing of the past because of this.