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A lot of people including me (and I'm old, conservative, technical geek) are not actively social. Not being actively social is not at all the same as antisocial

A lot of people including me (and I'm old, conservative, technical geek) are not actively social. Not being actively social is not at all the same as antisocial. Antisocial is associated with a negative behavioral aspect, a disorder potentially. Not wanting to have a beer at the pub doesn't make me antisocial. I don't mind shaking hands but, from a medical perspective it seems like a tradition that would best be left in the past.

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throwaway22032 5y ago
Disagree on the last part (coronavirus is not transferred much if at all via hands), agree on the rest of the post. If you don't enjoy the pub that's fine, different strokes for different folks. That's why we have freedom of association, I hang out with my people, you with yours, job done. What I'm calling antisocial is bans, restrictions, shame, etc etc. The virus is out there and basically everyone is gonna get it, turning onto each other is hate for the sake of hate.
- em-bee 5y ago
  refusing to hang out with me because i don't drink makes you antisocial though. when i hang out with my friends many have a beer while me and some others don't and nobody is bothered by that. that's what makes us social. our drinking habits don't factor into it at all.
  - throwaway22032 5y ago
    Agree.
- WWLink 5y ago
  > Disagree on the last part (coronavirus is not transferred much if at all via hands), agree on the rest of the post. Dude I've been in enough public bathrooms to never want to touch some random stranger's hand. You know how many people I've seen go from the toilet straight out the door? TOO MANY. Too many people on the internet who were like "My hands are clean, my privates are clean, I never touched anything dirty!" or whatever. EUGH. GROSS.
esyir 5y ago
>from a medical perspective it seems like a tradition that would best be left in the past. Personally speaking, I think this argument is extremely poor. From a medical standpoint, basically anything that's not shutting yourself in, working out moderately and eating an exceedingly boring diet should be left in the past as well. Good food (Obesity epidemic), extreme sports, any profession with any notable level of risk (Advice from medical professionals is exceedingly slanted to the side of caution), any drink with an alcohol content above 0. Acceptable levels of risk are part of everyday life, and we're certainly not going "there's a nonzero risk so I refuse to do it" every time you cross the road or leave the house, is there?
- WWLink 5y ago
  > Acceptable levels of risk are part of everyday life, and we're certainly not going "there's a nonzero risk so I refuse to do it" every time you cross the road or leave the house, is there? Sure but at the same time, I don't go "hey let's do some donuts in the middle of the freeway! There aren't that many cars around right now!" or go driving without my seatbelt on or whatever. Edit: I also don't fly kites in thunder storms.
  - esyir 5y ago
    Sure, but I'm pretty sure that handshakes are pretty low on the risk side of things. Moreover, this is a response to >I don't mind shaking hands but, from a medical perspective it seems like a tradition that would best be left in the past. I simply dislike the use of a "medical" justification here, as it feels more like an appeal to misleading statistics than anything else.

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throwaway22032 5y ago

Disagree on the last part (coronavirus is not transferred much if at all via hands), agree on the rest of the post. If you don't enjoy the pub that's fine, different strokes for different folks. That's why we have freedom of association, I hang out with my people, you with yours, job done. What I'm calling antisocial is bans, restrictions, shame, etc etc. The virus is out there and basically everyone is gonna get it, turning onto each other is hate for the sake of hate.

em-bee 5y ago
refusing to hang out with me because i don't drink makes you antisocial though. when i hang out with my friends many have a beer while me and some others don't and nobody is bothered by that. that's what makes us social. our drinking habits don't factor into it at all.
- throwaway22032 5y ago
  Agree.
WWLink 5y ago
> Disagree on the last part (coronavirus is not transferred much if at all via hands), agree on the rest of the post. Dude I've been in enough public bathrooms to never want to touch some random stranger's hand. You know how many people I've seen go from the toilet straight out the door? TOO MANY. Too many people on the internet who were like "My hands are clean, my privates are clean, I never touched anything dirty!" or whatever. EUGH. GROSS.

esyir 5y ago

>from a medical perspective it seems like a tradition that would best be left in the past. Personally speaking, I think this argument is extremely poor. From a medical standpoint, basically anything that's not shutting yourself in, working out moderately and eating an exceedingly boring diet should be left in the past as well. Good food (Obesity epidemic), extreme sports, any profession with any notable level of risk (Advice from medical professionals is exceedingly slanted to the side of caution), any drink with an alcohol content above 0. Acceptable levels of risk are part of everyday life, and we're certainly not going "there's a nonzero risk so I refuse to do it" every time you cross the road or leave the house, is there?

WWLink 5y ago
> Acceptable levels of risk are part of everyday life, and we're certainly not going "there's a nonzero risk so I refuse to do it" every time you cross the road or leave the house, is there? Sure but at the same time, I don't go "hey let's do some donuts in the middle of the freeway! There aren't that many cars around right now!" or go driving without my seatbelt on or whatever. Edit: I also don't fly kites in thunder storms.
- esyir 5y ago
  Sure, but I'm pretty sure that handshakes are pretty low on the risk side of things. Moreover, this is a response to >I don't mind shaking hands but, from a medical perspective it seems like a tradition that would best be left in the past. I simply dislike the use of a "medical" justification here, as it feels more like an appeal to misleading statistics than anything else.