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I've been using 1Password for years now, the auto-fill always works. I don't use their command line stuff much, and I have some read some legitimate criticisms

by _ktx2 5y ago

I've been using 1Password for years now, the auto-fill always works. I don't use their command line stuff much, and I have some read some legitimate criticisms about how they communicate secrets on unix-like systems. Apart from that, I'm not sure I understand the dissatisfaction in the comments. Can someone enumerate what's wrong with 1Password? Are tools like BitWarden any better?

bluehatbrit 5y ago
I think the majority of it is down to the pre-SaaS customers of the product. 1Password used to have a life time license and would work without any need for 1Password servers. You could backup your vaults anyway you wanted and the various clients would work with a variety of methods for syncing etc. A lot of long term 1Password users bought this and still use it, but the company no longer really do much to support it having pivoted to completely focus on their subscription offering. Many of their long time customers, many of which are HN users, feel they're getting shafted by the lack of updates etc to those older offerings. From what I understand a lot of the older clients and plugins that worked with the local versions don't get updated anymore. However, I'm only a customer of their subscription offering so someone else might be able to elaborate more.
- kodah 5y ago
  Ah, that makes sense honestly. I bought their lifetime license and I'm a subscription user. Kinda sounds like the right thing to do is refund the lifetime license holders if they've changed architecture and direction that drastically.
  - bluehatbrit 5y ago
    That would probably be the consumer friendly approach, or at least some kind of life time discount on the subscription platform. At the same time, a perpetual license is typically for the version you buy and that's it (old Adobe or MS Office approach) so I can see the argument for "you got it, and can still use it". As someone who moved from LastPass to 1Password (after they aged off the lifetime license) though I'm happy and given their growth I'd imagine most of their customers are happy enough with it.

by _ktx2 5y ago

bluehatbrit 5y ago

I think the majority of it is down to the pre-SaaS customers of the product. 1Password used to have a life time license and would work without any need for 1Password servers. You could backup your vaults anyway you wanted and the various clients would work with a variety of methods for syncing etc. A lot of long term 1Password users bought this and still use it, but the company no longer really do much to support it having pivoted to completely focus on their subscription offering. Many of their long time customers, many of which are HN users, feel they're getting shafted by the lack of updates etc to those older offerings. From what I understand a lot of the older clients and plugins that worked with the local versions don't get updated anymore. However, I'm only a customer of their subscription offering so someone else might be able to elaborate more.

kodah 5y ago
Ah, that makes sense honestly. I bought their lifetime license and I'm a subscription user. Kinda sounds like the right thing to do is refund the lifetime license holders if they've changed architecture and direction that drastically.
- bluehatbrit 5y ago
  That would probably be the consumer friendly approach, or at least some kind of life time discount on the subscription platform. At the same time, a perpetual license is typically for the version you buy and that's it (old Adobe or MS Office approach) so I can see the argument for "you got it, and can still use it". As someone who moved from LastPass to 1Password (after they aged off the lifetime license) though I'm happy and given their growth I'd imagine most of their customers are happy enough with it.