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Grumps: Why is FF losing market share!? Mozilla: Does stuff to gain market share. Grumps: Pissed off Mozilla does stuff to gain market share. It's a freaking

Grumps: Why is FF losing market share!? Mozilla: Does stuff to gain market share. Grumps: Pissed off Mozilla does stuff to gain market share. It's a freaking browser. Browsers peaked like 30 years ago. They're ALL on maintenance at this point.

brimble 5y ago
How is pushing ads at users going to gain them market share? I know it'll get them more money, but it'll annoy users and I've not seen evidence that the reason they're struggling is because they're capital-constrained.
Nextgrid 5y ago
How does this gain market share? It's still a knockoff, slower version of Chrome, just that you can install a Disney theme. In its default configuration, it doesn't bring anything to the table that Chrome doesn't already have, and making it actually privacy-respecting requires being tech-savvy enough to configure it and install the right third-party ad blocking add-on - which if you are tech-savvy enough, chances are that you're already running it. > Browsers peaked like 30 years ago. They're ALL on maintenance at this point. The web is changing and is getting more user-hostile every day. A browser that's actually a user-agent would be a great tool to fight back. Unfortunately Mozilla only claims to be on your side but actually does very little at the technical level.
- yoasif_ 5y ago
  > In its default configuration, it doesn't bring anything to the table that Chrome doesn't already have That is clearly false, and you have replied to my comments referencing this demonstrating that you ought to know better. See: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-now-available-with-enhanced-tracking-protection-by-default/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-now-ava... https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2020/01/07/firefox-72-fingerprinting/ https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2020/01/07/firefox-72-fing... https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/03/23/introducing-smartblock/ https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/03/23/introducing-sma... No opt-ins required, and features that Chrome doesn't have at all.

brimble 5y ago

How is pushing ads at users going to gain them market share? I know it'll get them more money, but it'll annoy users and I've not seen evidence that the reason they're struggling is because they're capital-constrained.

Nextgrid 5y ago

How does this gain market share? It's still a knockoff, slower version of Chrome, just that you can install a Disney theme. In its default configuration, it doesn't bring anything to the table that Chrome doesn't already have, and making it actually privacy-respecting requires being tech-savvy enough to configure it and install the right third-party ad blocking add-on - which if you are tech-savvy enough, chances are that you're already running it. > Browsers peaked like 30 years ago. They're ALL on maintenance at this point. The web is changing and is getting more user-hostile every day. A browser that's actually a user-agent would be a great tool to fight back. Unfortunately Mozilla only claims to be on your side but actually does very little at the technical level.

yoasif_ 5y ago
> In its default configuration, it doesn't bring anything to the table that Chrome doesn't already have That is clearly false, and you have replied to my comments referencing this demonstrating that you ought to know better. See: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-now-available-with-enhanced-tracking-protection-by-default/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-now-ava... https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2020/01/07/firefox-72-fingerprinting/ https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2020/01/07/firefox-72-fing... https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/03/23/introducing-smartblock/ https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/03/23/introducing-sma... No opt-ins required, and features that Chrome doesn't have at all.