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Interesting side note. There is a new reactor coming online in the next year or two close to Savannah, GA (Plant Vogtle)...which has resulted in the air qualit

Interesting side note. There is a new reactor coming online in the next year or two close to Savannah, GA (Plant Vogtle)...which has resulted in the air quality of Carroll County, GA getting much cleaner. Yates and Wansley have burned through coal stockpiles, one is now moth balled, the other is on nat gas and will be fully decommissioned when Vogtle 3? comes on line. Vogtle 3-4 https://www.georgiapower.com/company/plant-vogtle.html https://www.georgiapower.com/company/plant-vogtle.html

ncmncm 5y ago
At ~$14B for ~2GW, that is very expensive power. It will soon be markedly uncompetitive as solar/wind/storage come online, and the reactors will end up shut down early, never having made back their (outrageous) capital cost.
- steeve 5y ago
  The biggest battery in the world is about 400MWh. That's the output of the Diablo Canyon power plant for 10 minutes. What is this mysterious storage that you speak of?
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    Do I need to look up for you how much pumped-hydro storage is already online? Or list a dozen other technologies also under large-scale construction? You could look that up yourself, if you cared.
    - steeve 5y ago
      Which valley are you going to drown? Hydro being pretty much at capacity...
      - ncmncm 5y ago
        Hydro storage is a completely different animal than native hydro generation. A reservoir for the latter requires a river collecting water from a large area watershed, and a dam lower down backing water up the river course. Hydro storage requires only an elevated basin, and a pipe (penstock) leading up to it from a ready source of water -- even groundwater -- no watershed needed. Such basins are legion, and filling them typically discomfits no one.
        steeve 5y ago
        Given the capacity needed (TWhs), such basins are going to be massive, and will drown valleys.
        ncmncm 5y ago
        No valleys, no drownding.

ncmncm 5y ago

At ~$14B for ~2GW, that is very expensive power. It will soon be markedly uncompetitive as solar/wind/storage come online, and the reactors will end up shut down early, never having made back their (outrageous) capital cost.

steeve 5y ago
The biggest battery in the world is about 400MWh. That's the output of the Diablo Canyon power plant for 10 minutes. What is this mysterious storage that you speak of?
- ncmncm 5y ago
  Do I need to look up for you how much pumped-hydro storage is already online? Or list a dozen other technologies also under large-scale construction? You could look that up yourself, if you cared.
  - steeve 5y ago
    Which valley are you going to drown? Hydro being pretty much at capacity...
    - ncmncm 5y ago
      Hydro storage is a completely different animal than native hydro generation. A reservoir for the latter requires a river collecting water from a large area watershed, and a dam lower down backing water up the river course. Hydro storage requires only an elevated basin, and a pipe (penstock) leading up to it from a ready source of water -- even groundwater -- no watershed needed. Such basins are legion, and filling them typically discomfits no one.
      - steeve 5y ago
        Given the capacity needed (TWhs), such basins are going to be massive, and will drown valleys.
        ncmncm 5y ago
        No valleys, no drownding.