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Of course it is a precious resource. Any bytes wasted by bloated electron apps are bytes that your kernel cannot use for disk caches. Pretty much every file I
by gkbrk 5y ago
Of course it is a precious resource. Any bytes wasted by bloated electron apps are bytes that your kernel cannot use for disk caches.
Pretty much every file I use daily is always in my disk cache, but they won't all fit there if I run a bunch of electron apps.
- TameAntelope 5y agoFalse choice; you have memory for both Electron apps and your kernel for disk caching. Besides, with SSDs and NVMe your experience loading data from disk is plenty fast. Again, this is the future; I/O isn’t the bottleneck it once was.
- otterley 5y agoJust because you haven't personally experienced this problem doesn't mean that many others have not. The experience of others is just as valuable as your personal experience, and to denigrate the experiences of others demonstrates a lack of empathy and understanding. Not everyone has an SSD, and not everyone has more than 8GB memory in their laptops. Many laptop manufacturers (including Apple) continue to sell lower-memory systems in droves; and there is a widely-installed base of older computers dating 5 years and even longer.
- TameAntelope 5y agoMy point is that, in 2022, the overwhelming majority of people do have the necessary resources required to run Electron apps on their laptops and desktops. My view is backed up by the fact that people do exactly this, with great success. The complaint about memory is not reflective of the typical user experience.
- otterley 5y agoThe fact that multiple people here are telling you that they have experienced RAM shortages and swapping due to excessive consumption speaks for itself.
- TameAntelope 5y agoThe fact that you think a small handful of anecdotes is a meaningful or representative sample size speaks for itself.
- otterley 5y agoThen please show us the data that backs you up.
- TameAntelope 5y agoNo, you've been hostile and non-cooperative this whole time, my allocation for time spent with people like that is more or less up. If you're actually curious, you can figure it out for yourself.
- otterley 5y agoThat was a very evasive way of saying, "I don't have it." Thanks for playing, though!
- TameAntelope 5y agoThe fact that you need me to "show data" that Moore's Law exists is, in and of itself, hostile, but on top of that this comment pretty solidly demonstrates that my intuition is correct.
- otterley 5y agoYou are the one who came in here and disputed my claim (and those of others as well) without a single shred of evidence. You still refuse to substantiate your disagreement. Nobody is disputing Moore's Law (and this is the first time you've brought it up!). The dispute is around whether people still experience slowdowns and other bad experiences as a result of excessive memory consumption relative to resources, despite Moore's Law. I and several other people have told you right here that they have, and you refuse to acknowledge our collective experience largely because you personally haven't shared this experience. My ego isn't bruised. But I and others reasonably expect significantly more than a "drive-by" non-substantive negation of a claim that comes directly from personal and professional experience (i.e., gaslighting) -- especially on Hacker News, where the audience is supposed to be largely composed of mathematicians, scientists, and others who possess better-than-average ability to think deeply, logically, and in a nuanced fashion.