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There's a lot more water in the Golan Heights, which is really why Israel decided to take it over in the first place.

daniel-cussen 5y ago
Water is crucially important to fabs, true. But get real, water is important for everything in Israel, and why it had strategic value to warrant annexing it after the whole--the whole war that happened, the casus bellum of which cannot be done justice in short comments like this.
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  The parent said Israel took over Golan Heights for its water, not "...for its water for fabs".
  - daniel-cussen 5y ago
    Fair. But my argument is with it constituting encroachment, like Syria in no way brought that territorial loss upon itself in any capacity. My objection was one-sided denigration of Israel when it appears--in the comment I replied to, it was mild and implied--which mitigates things. Can't help notice Anti-Israel speech as gotten to be very common on HN in the last two years. If you want to criticize or even denounce Israel, this forum is for sure an appropriate time and place for that, and it appears nobody will claim anti-Semitism in the 2020's like they would in the past (as far as I can tell, this decade only American Jews are off limits, Israel is fair game). But historical falsifications are where I draw the line. I claim that is incredibly dangerous, leads people to believe that a group--here, it's Israeli Jews--is morally inferior. Do you know what happened next in the Middle Ages, or the Renaissance, or the Enlightenment, or even in the 19th century, any time the stereotype of moral inferiority took hold? That is precisely the moment to "speak for the Jews," as the poem put it.
yyyk 5y ago
More accurately, it meant 'Syria wouldn't be able to deprive Israel of its single biggest water source'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headwater_Diversion_Plan_(Jordan_River) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headwater_Diversion_Plan_(Jord...

Water is crucially important to fabs, true. But get real, water is important for everything in Israel, and why it had strategic value to warrant annexing it after the whole--the whole war that happened, the casus bellum of which cannot be done justice in short comments like this.

throwaway894345 5y ago
The parent said Israel took over Golan Heights for its water, not "...for its water for fabs".
- daniel-cussen 5y ago
  Fair. But my argument is with it constituting encroachment, like Syria in no way brought that territorial loss upon itself in any capacity. My objection was one-sided denigration of Israel when it appears--in the comment I replied to, it was mild and implied--which mitigates things. Can't help notice Anti-Israel speech as gotten to be very common on HN in the last two years. If you want to criticize or even denounce Israel, this forum is for sure an appropriate time and place for that, and it appears nobody will claim anti-Semitism in the 2020's like they would in the past (as far as I can tell, this decade only American Jews are off limits, Israel is fair game). But historical falsifications are where I draw the line. I claim that is incredibly dangerous, leads people to believe that a group--here, it's Israeli Jews--is morally inferior. Do you know what happened next in the Middle Ages, or the Renaissance, or the Enlightenment, or even in the 19th century, any time the stereotype of moral inferiority took hold? That is precisely the moment to "speak for the Jews," as the poem put it.

yyyk 5y ago

More accurately, it meant 'Syria wouldn't be able to deprive Israel of its single biggest water source'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headwater_Diversion_Plan_(Jordan_River) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headwater_Diversion_Plan_(Jord...