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My very amateur musician take: it can have little, or it can have a lot. One way to 'improvise' is to have an understanding of the relationships between keys a
by wcarss 5y ago
My very amateur musician take: it can have little, or it can have a lot.
One way to 'improvise' is to have an understanding of the relationships between keys and while moving around at pleasing intervals and making interesting chords, regularly jump keys at points where they overlap -- that's .. pretty music-theory driven, and can be very mathematical! There's a lot of fun math in jazz.
It's not the only way to improvise, certainly. But someone who knows the rules can make them run a long way.
- Rochus 5y agoImprovisation is like talking. Not all people can do it equally well, and you learn to speak as a child without theory, and without knowing or being aware of the physiological or physical processes, or the syntactic or semantic features of language. You can listen to discussion groups and be well entertained without the speakers following any script or theory.
- jseban 5y agoCan you give an example of a master speaker who doesn't know how to read or write, and are completely ignorant of grammar and how language works? And can you really say that one such example would make speaking mostly unrelated to language theory?
- Rochus 5y agoDid you learn to read or write and the grammar and how language works before you learned to talk?
- jseban 5y agoOf course your first exposure is not formal education, but the things I picked up by ear, the speakers had learned in formal education. Nobody becomes an expert in a field, completely detached from the existing body of knowledge. You could learn it only by immersion if you, for some reason, really want to avoid formal education, but you're still using an existing body of knowledge, even though mentally you might not call things "adverbs". And the likely, going that route will be much longer and harder, and also put a limit on how far you can go.
- Rochus 5y agoWell, you didn't learn to talk on your own, but from your parents and other people around you. It's the same with music.
- lewispollard 5y agoRight, and when you asked your parents/teachers/those around you about aspect of the language you were speaking, did they tell you to not worry about it and just feel it? Or did they explain, well this part of grammar is called an X, and we use it to modify Y, which in turn is a part of Z - such that you could better understand it, communicate it to others better, and generalise the specific thing you'd intuitively learned to a wider aspect of language?
- trasz 5y agoEver tried to explain (or learn) when to use word "the" using grammar rules? Some of the grammar rules are sometimes useful to general public.