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> Apple and Google both collect similarly gargantuan amounts of user call and messaging data and store it in enormous datacenters. Again you’re making assertio

> Apple and Google both collect similarly gargantuan amounts of user call and messaging data and store it in enormous datacenters. Again you’re making assertions with zero evidence. Please provide actual citations for Apple collecting “gargantuan amounts of user call and messaging data”, not just links to people misunderstanding what features Android provides.

1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
More info on Apple's collection of call data and messaging data: https://bgr.com/tech/iphone-call-data-icloud/ https://bgr.com/tech/iphone-call-data-icloud/ https://theintercept.com/2016/11/17/iphones-secretly-send-call-history-to-apple-security-firm-says/ https://theintercept.com/2016/11/17/iphones-secretly-send-ca... https://www.macworld.com/article/229163/apple-saves-iphone-call-history-to-icloud-but-barely-mentions-it.html https://www.macworld.com/article/229163/apple-saves-iphone-c... https://fortune.com/2016/11/17/apple-call-data-icloud-elcomsoft/ https://fortune.com/2016/11/17/apple-call-data-icloud-elcoms... https://www.wired.com/2011/04/apple-iphone-tracking/ https://www.wired.com/2011/04/apple-iphone-tracking/ "The zip file contained mostly Excel spreadsheets, packed with information that Apple stores about me. None of the files contained content information -- like text messages and photos -- but they do contain metadata, like when and who I messaged or called on FaceTime." https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-data-collection-stored-request/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-data-collection-stored-r...
- avianlyric 5y ago
  Ok apple does call history syncing via iCloud. That doesn’t hold up your claim at all. For your claim to be valid Apple would need to upload the data even if your had iCloud disabled, and would then need to process the data for some purpose unrelated to a product feature you’re using. None of your links indicate that’s happening.

1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago

More info on Apple's collection of call data and messaging data: https://bgr.com/tech/iphone-call-data-icloud/ https://bgr.com/tech/iphone-call-data-icloud/ https://theintercept.com/2016/11/17/iphones-secretly-send-call-history-to-apple-security-firm-says/ https://theintercept.com/2016/11/17/iphones-secretly-send-ca... https://www.macworld.com/article/229163/apple-saves-iphone-call-history-to-icloud-but-barely-mentions-it.html https://www.macworld.com/article/229163/apple-saves-iphone-c... https://fortune.com/2016/11/17/apple-call-data-icloud-elcomsoft/ https://fortune.com/2016/11/17/apple-call-data-icloud-elcoms... https://www.wired.com/2011/04/apple-iphone-tracking/ https://www.wired.com/2011/04/apple-iphone-tracking/ "The zip file contained mostly Excel spreadsheets, packed with information that Apple stores about me. None of the files contained content information -- like text messages and photos -- but they do contain metadata, like when and who I messaged or called on FaceTime." https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-data-collection-stored-request/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-data-collection-stored-r...

avianlyric 5y ago
Ok apple does call history syncing via iCloud. That doesn’t hold up your claim at all. For your claim to be valid Apple would need to upload the data even if your had iCloud disabled, and would then need to process the data for some purpose unrelated to a product feature you’re using. None of your links indicate that’s happening.