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Intel Foundry Services (IFS) is marketing themselves as the only fab capable of producing all three of x86, Arm, and RISC-V. Back when Intel had a process adva
by jabl 5y ago
Intel Foundry Services (IFS) is marketing themselves as the only fab capable of producing all three of x86, Arm, and RISC-V.
Back when Intel had a process advantage over everybody else I guess it made strategic sense for them to not let others use their process. Now when that process lead is gone, refusing to fab chips for non-x86 ISA's just means those customers will go elsewhere.
- throwaway81523 5y ago> Intel Foundry Services (IFS) is marketing themselves as the only fab capable of producing all three of x86, Arm, and RISC-V. Capable? From the fab point of view, all three of those are just rectangles.
- sanxiyn 5y agoI mean, same rectangles won't work for different foundries. It is saying we have these IP cores tested and working with the process.
- ginko 5y ago> Intel Foundry Services (IFS) is marketing themselves as the only fab capable of producing all three of x86, Arm, and RISC-V. TSMC is producing all of these. Not like the architecture matters from a foundry POV anyways.
- jabl 5y agoTSMC is producing some x86 cpu's for Intel. I think what they're saying here is that they will license x86 cores for integrating into 3rd party SoC's/chiplets, but only if you use IFS.
- ginko 5y agoThey're also producing all x86 CPUs for AMD.
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- jabl 5y agoYes [1]? The argument is about whether Intel refuses to license their processor designs to 3rd parties to be fabbed in any random fab. [1] Evidently the x86 cross licensing deals between AMD and Intel doesn't preclude AMD from using 3rd party fabs.
- jcranmer 5y agoAs far as I'm aware, all current Intel x86 CPUs are Intel fab-only, although https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/intel-to-outsource-some-key-cpu-production-for-2023-chips https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/intel-to-outsource-some... suggests that TSMC x86 CPUs might come out in 2023.
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