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As an avid vaporwave listener, I’d wager that listening to music slowed down / pitched down has a calming psychological effect in general. In other words, 432hz

by ppqqrr 5y ago

As an avid vaporwave listener, I’d wager that listening to music slowed down / pitched down has a calming psychological effect in general. In other words, 432hz is not some magic number, it’s better because it’s lower.

nixpulvis 5y ago
I wager your talking more about BPM than the pitch of each note. Perhaps there's some argument that lower tuning naturally gives rise to lower BPM when composing a song, but I'm skeptical of that. If you take a song and transpose it or detune it a bit, you don't mess with the rhythem do you? So if we ignore the tempo; What makes the flattening of a note "calming"? If anything I might become a bit excited or agitated by the breaking of expectations. Though 8Hz is somewhat subtle. I'd be curious what songs they used for testing, since I'm thinking that some songs are simply calmer than others at 432Hz for whatever reason. Or visa-versa. I was expecting to read something about the temperment as well, since changing the tuning allows for different spacing between notes. This too can somewhat dramatically change the feel of each key.
- insickness 5y ago
  It's not just the BPM. When music is pitched down, it loses some of it's shrillness. The lack of higher pitches can have a calming effect because that's where the ears get most fatigued and feel the most "pain" from listening. There's a whole genre of music called Slowed and Reverbed that slows all kinds of music down. Here's an example of a slowed song and a it's original: Cigarettes After Sex - Slowed https://youtu.be/GGfWuK-fZYM https://youtu.be/GGfWuK-fZYM Cigarettes After Sex - Original https://youtu.be/sElE_BfQ67s https://youtu.be/sElE_BfQ67s
  - bl0b 5y ago
    Don't forget DJ Screw with chopped and screwed! Nowadays when people copy that style it is referred to as 'slowed and throwed'
  - nixpulvis 5y ago
    Seems like they just slowed the BPM, or am I missing something? The key sounded about the same to my untrained ear.
JohnHaugeland 5y ago
> As an avid vaporwave listener, I’d wager that listening to music slowed down / pitched down has a calming psychological effect in general. slowing something down from 440 to 432 that's three minutes long will result in less than 1 screen frame of difference time you wouldn't be able to tell the difference
- marcan_42 5y ago
  (3 minutes * (440 / 432 - 1)) * 24 FPS = 80 frames You're not wrong that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference as long as you don't have perfect pitch (it's a fraction of a semitone), but you might want to check your math.
  - JohnHaugeland 5y ago
    you're right, i misplaced a decimal two steps sorry

by ppqqrr 5y ago

nixpulvis 5y ago

I wager your talking more about BPM than the pitch of each note. Perhaps there's some argument that lower tuning naturally gives rise to lower BPM when composing a song, but I'm skeptical of that. If you take a song and transpose it or detune it a bit, you don't mess with the rhythem do you? So if we ignore the tempo; What makes the flattening of a note "calming"? If anything I might become a bit excited or agitated by the breaking of expectations. Though 8Hz is somewhat subtle. I'd be curious what songs they used for testing, since I'm thinking that some songs are simply calmer than others at 432Hz for whatever reason. Or visa-versa. I was expecting to read something about the temperment as well, since changing the tuning allows for different spacing between notes. This too can somewhat dramatically change the feel of each key.

insickness 5y ago
It's not just the BPM. When music is pitched down, it loses some of it's shrillness. The lack of higher pitches can have a calming effect because that's where the ears get most fatigued and feel the most "pain" from listening. There's a whole genre of music called Slowed and Reverbed that slows all kinds of music down. Here's an example of a slowed song and a it's original: Cigarettes After Sex - Slowed https://youtu.be/GGfWuK-fZYM https://youtu.be/GGfWuK-fZYM Cigarettes After Sex - Original https://youtu.be/sElE_BfQ67s https://youtu.be/sElE_BfQ67s
- bl0b 5y ago
  Don't forget DJ Screw with chopped and screwed! Nowadays when people copy that style it is referred to as 'slowed and throwed'
- nixpulvis 5y ago
  Seems like they just slowed the BPM, or am I missing something? The key sounded about the same to my untrained ear.

JohnHaugeland 5y ago

> As an avid vaporwave listener, I’d wager that listening to music slowed down / pitched down has a calming psychological effect in general. slowing something down from 440 to 432 that's three minutes long will result in less than 1 screen frame of difference time you wouldn't be able to tell the difference

marcan_42 5y ago
(3 minutes * (440 / 432 - 1)) * 24 FPS = 80 frames You're not wrong that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference as long as you don't have perfect pitch (it's a fraction of a semitone), but you might want to check your math.
- JohnHaugeland 5y ago
  you're right, i misplaced a decimal two steps sorry