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they are purposely built their for Geo-political reasons, to ensure those area's stay "disputed"

by syshum 5y ago

emteycz 5y ago
Or the disputed places make unusual investments due to their status?
Aromasin 5y ago
I disagree. Israel is unique in terms of it's human capital. Tech companies have locations there for the same reasons they have locations in Oxford and Cambridge in the UK. There are 135 per 10,000 people employed as engineers there, compared to the next closest which is the US at 70 per 10k. That would already be a unique draw for Intel, if it weren't for the original reason they set up shop there; Dov Frohman. He was the first GM at Intel (also the inventor of EPROM), and wanted to relocate there to accept a Professorship. They didn't want to lose him, so they agreed to let him open an R&D lab there. This ended up being a huge success (they designed the 8087 there) and they continued to grow on that success, to the point where Intel is now the largest private employer in Israel. I recommend Asianometry's video essay on Intel's success in Israel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lEgJQgAw3g&t=894s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lEgJQgAw3g&t=894s He also covers the rise of such silicon manufacturing in Taiwan - which I also disagree on it being geo-politically motivated, with it being successful long before it's national identity came under threat from mainland China.
- throwaway4good 5y ago
  I think the issue of "how to reunite the rogue republic of Taiwan with the motherland" predates silicon manufactoring in Taiwan by a few years :-D
throwaway4good 5y ago
The "geopolitics" is played up as the US now needs an excuse for aggressive industrial policies aiming to move jobs from "allieds" such as South Korea and Taiwan and back into the US. Pat Gelsinger panders to this as he eyes a windfall for his business, so much that it is getting harsh reactions from Taiwan: Intel CEO: Taiwan Isn’t a Stable Place. TSMC Founder Has Other Concerns https://techtaiwan.com/20211207/gelsinger-intel-taiwan/ https://techtaiwan.com/20211207/gelsinger-intel-taiwan/
xadhominemx 5y ago
Completely absurd comment. Israel is a minnow in the semiconductor manufacturing industry and many fabs are located in Taiwan because Taiwanese people invented the foundry business.

they are purposely built their for Geo-political reasons, to ensure those area's stay "disputed"

by syshum 5y ago

they are purposely built their for Geo-political reasons, to ensure those area's stay "disputed"

emteycz 5y ago

Or the disputed places make unusual investments due to their status?

Aromasin 5y ago

I disagree. Israel is unique in terms of it's human capital. Tech companies have locations there for the same reasons they have locations in Oxford and Cambridge in the UK. There are 135 per 10,000 people employed as engineers there, compared to the next closest which is the US at 70 per 10k. That would already be a unique draw for Intel, if it weren't for the original reason they set up shop there; Dov Frohman. He was the first GM at Intel (also the inventor of EPROM), and wanted to relocate there to accept a Professorship. They didn't want to lose him, so they agreed to let him open an R&D lab there. This ended up being a huge success (they designed the 8087 there) and they continued to grow on that success, to the point where Intel is now the largest private employer in Israel. I recommend Asianometry's video essay on Intel's success in Israel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lEgJQgAw3g&t=894s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lEgJQgAw3g&t=894s He also covers the rise of such silicon manufacturing in Taiwan - which I also disagree on it being geo-politically motivated, with it being successful long before it's national identity came under threat from mainland China.

throwaway4good 5y ago
I think the issue of "how to reunite the rogue republic of Taiwan with the motherland" predates silicon manufactoring in Taiwan by a few years :-D

throwaway4good 5y ago

The "geopolitics" is played up as the US now needs an excuse for aggressive industrial policies aiming to move jobs from "allieds" such as South Korea and Taiwan and back into the US. Pat Gelsinger panders to this as he eyes a windfall for his business, so much that it is getting harsh reactions from Taiwan: Intel CEO: Taiwan Isn’t a Stable Place. TSMC Founder Has Other Concerns https://techtaiwan.com/20211207/gelsinger-intel-taiwan/ https://techtaiwan.com/20211207/gelsinger-intel-taiwan/

xadhominemx 5y ago

Completely absurd comment. Israel is a minnow in the semiconductor manufacturing industry and many fabs are located in Taiwan because Taiwanese people invented the foundry business.