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Another lockdown possibly ? /s

hughrr 5y ago
Lockdown was bliss for pollution here in London. Air smelled totally different. We don’t want more lockdowns but we need to fix society so we don’t have to travel so much on a daily basis.
- go_elmo 5y ago
  As a foreign tourist in london, london needs to fix its infrastructure. The amount of fine dust in the tubes is criminal.
  - hughrr 5y ago
    Yeah tube dust is nasty. I’ll give you that. I barely ever use the tube now preferring to use overground trains and walk if possible. A lot of people don’t seem to know that a lot of tube journeys can be done in a few minutes on foot.
  - napier 5y ago
    Pandemic or no pandemic, wearing a high filtration respirator (N95/FFP2 mask at a minimum) on the tube, where air pollution levels regularly exceed Beijing and Delhi, is advisable. Also sensible on inexplicably still diesel choked busy London streets above ground.
    - hughrr 5y ago
      Streets are getting considerably better thanks to ULEZ and all the horrible busses and taxis being replaced.
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- tim333 5y ago
  While I'm skeptical of the UK govts 2030 ban on selling combustion engine vehicles, I think going electric may the answer to London air quality.
  - hughrr 5y ago
    Correct but only because people won’t be able to afford to replace their old cars with electric ones.
- ben_w 5y ago
  I can well believe it. While I spent the pandemic in Berlin and didn’t notice much change here, 20 years ago I was in the UK and the daily walk past the A27 was radically improved by the truckers blockading the entire UK petrol supply in protest against fuel taxes.
BoxOfRain 5y ago
'Climate lockdowns' are already an established conspiracy theory among the nuttier end of society, I really think the news industry has a moral responsibility to avoid alarmism because of its inherently destabilising effect on society. Of course, alarmism is excellent at driving engagement and ad revenue so I might as well have asked for someone to write a program that solves the halting problem. I don't know how inventives can be put in place so that the news industry is an asset to society rather than a liability but I wish I did.
- bleuchase 5y ago
  - postsantum 5y ago
    Conspiracy theory is a thought-terminating cliche, it's like offering a bumper sticker as an argument. I wish there was a neutral website that tracks fringe theories and their development
  - Hnrobert42 5y ago
    Name calling is not acceptable on this forum.
  - germinalphrase 5y ago
    The lab leak hypothesis is still a hypothesis. As for the best of the list - you’re being hyperbolic. I wasn’t never locked down for years, forced to get a vaccine to keep my job or go into a restaurant. Likewise, I have no idea what a “green” pass is and assuredly don’t have one. Maybe all of these things are happening to someone somewhere, but it has never been my situation. Where do you live that all of these things have happened to you?
  - trevormcneal 5y ago
    and remember, is not a conspiracy theory if is writen by Klaus, it is a plan. if he is going to succeed or not, is another story, but he has clear plans about a different world which is greener than the actual. I can't blame him, he is so disconnected from reality that I trully believe that he has good intentions, but has no idea of the real impacts of his acts. remember that people called the great reset a conspiracy theory, this is literally stated on WEF page, on Klaus books, and on his talks. And this is a key factor for a cleaner economy, since economical control at the individual level is required to create a more strict compliance mechanism.
bigodbiel 5y ago
I’m already expecting the same protocol used for covid crisis (fear, restrictions, fines, divisiveness) will be once again applied for the impending climate crisis.
- vanviegen 5y ago
  If used effectively, that may not be unwarranted...
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Lockdown was bliss for pollution here in London. Air smelled totally different. We don’t want more lockdowns but we need to fix society so we don’t have to travel so much on a daily basis.

go_elmo 5y ago
As a foreign tourist in london, london needs to fix its infrastructure. The amount of fine dust in the tubes is criminal.
- hughrr 5y ago
  Yeah tube dust is nasty. I’ll give you that. I barely ever use the tube now preferring to use overground trains and walk if possible. A lot of people don’t seem to know that a lot of tube journeys can be done in a few minutes on foot.
- napier 5y ago
  Pandemic or no pandemic, wearing a high filtration respirator (N95/FFP2 mask at a minimum) on the tube, where air pollution levels regularly exceed Beijing and Delhi, is advisable. Also sensible on inexplicably still diesel choked busy London streets above ground.
  - hughrr 5y ago
    Streets are getting considerably better thanks to ULEZ and all the horrible busses and taxis being replaced.
    - deleted 5y ago
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tim333 5y ago
While I'm skeptical of the UK govts 2030 ban on selling combustion engine vehicles, I think going electric may the answer to London air quality.
- hughrr 5y ago
  Correct but only because people won’t be able to afford to replace their old cars with electric ones.
ben_w 5y ago
I can well believe it. While I spent the pandemic in Berlin and didn’t notice much change here, 20 years ago I was in the UK and the daily walk past the A27 was radically improved by the truckers blockading the entire UK petrol supply in protest against fuel taxes.

BoxOfRain 5y ago

'Climate lockdowns' are already an established conspiracy theory among the nuttier end of society, I really think the news industry has a moral responsibility to avoid alarmism because of its inherently destabilising effect on society. Of course, alarmism is excellent at driving engagement and ad revenue so I might as well have asked for someone to write a program that solves the halting problem. I don't know how inventives can be put in place so that the news industry is an asset to society rather than a liability but I wish I did.

bleuchase 5y ago
- postsantum 5y ago
  Conspiracy theory is a thought-terminating cliche, it's like offering a bumper sticker as an argument. I wish there was a neutral website that tracks fringe theories and their development
- Hnrobert42 5y ago
  Name calling is not acceptable on this forum.
- germinalphrase 5y ago
  The lab leak hypothesis is still a hypothesis. As for the best of the list - you’re being hyperbolic. I wasn’t never locked down for years, forced to get a vaccine to keep my job or go into a restaurant. Likewise, I have no idea what a “green” pass is and assuredly don’t have one. Maybe all of these things are happening to someone somewhere, but it has never been my situation. Where do you live that all of these things have happened to you?
- trevormcneal 5y ago
  and remember, is not a conspiracy theory if is writen by Klaus, it is a plan. if he is going to succeed or not, is another story, but he has clear plans about a different world which is greener than the actual. I can't blame him, he is so disconnected from reality that I trully believe that he has good intentions, but has no idea of the real impacts of his acts. remember that people called the great reset a conspiracy theory, this is literally stated on WEF page, on Klaus books, and on his talks. And this is a key factor for a cleaner economy, since economical control at the individual level is required to create a more strict compliance mechanism.

bigodbiel 5y ago

I’m already expecting the same protocol used for covid crisis (fear, restrictions, fines, divisiveness) will be once again applied for the impending climate crisis.

vanviegen 5y ago
If used effectively, that may not be unwarranted...
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