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You should be able to. I can. Tools, then change All results to Verbatim. Then change Any Time to one of the presets of custom range. Or just quote the words i

You should be able to. I can. Tools, then change All results to Verbatim. Then change Any Time to one of the presets of custom range. Or just quote the words in regular mode then use our before/after commands: https://twitter.com/searchliaison/status/1115706765088182272 https://twitter.com/searchliaison/status/1115706765088182272

b112 5y ago
What?! Have you tried this? It immediately turns verbatim off. For everyone! It's been like this forever. Years and years. Gaslighting won't help here! In terms of quotes, again, this does NOT work like +, like verbatim. If it did, then that term would absolutely show up, just as it is, in search results. Yet, over the years I've seen: - aliasing happen from within quotes (EG, bob -> robert) - quotes entirely ignored (eg, those terms NOT showing up) Yet searching with verbatim on, immediately causes those quoted words to appear! You are absolutely gaslighting people on this! Right now, in this thread. And if it isn't intentional, if you aren't gaslighting, then how can you not even notice that verbatim turns off, the second you select a date range? I want to say so much more here, but it's filled with such ... vitriol, that I think my terminal would melt.
- aceazzameen 5y ago
  I can confirm what bbarnett says about date ranges and verbatim. Turning on a date range toggles verbatim off. Turning on verbatim toggles the date range off. It's impossible to enable them both.
- dannysullivan 5y ago
  I'm not trying to gaslight anyone. And what would be the point? To say something works if it demonstrably doesn't work? Yes, I tried this for some of the presets before I replied. It worked. It still works. My sincere apologies for not specifically testing custom date range option as well. I should have; you are correct. That won't work. I'll pass it on to see if there's a way it can. My apologies again. If you need to do this another way, what I also said works. Do it in the search bar using the before/after command. Just quote all the words, and that's the same as verbatim.
  - b112 5y ago
    That is absolutely not the same as verbatim, and you need to do some empirical tests on your end, before you state things like this. Take a look here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29424094 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29424094 It's like you're just spouting Google propaganda, without validating what you're saying. Just like with vertabim/date range, which has been a thing for close ot a decade, which Google has received endless reports about, this too does not do what you say. Your responses are akin to those canned responses one gets when you post a bad review. "So sorry, please contact us here at this email address.", which of course is all about impression, and results in nothing ever happening. This has been going on almost a decade, yet oh what, no, haha is your response.
    - b112 5y ago
      For additional clarity, quoting has always, always, always been different than +, and verbatim. When you(Google) removed +, so that 'google+ searches' could work without interference, quoting was already a thing, and people were just told by some airhead googler "Oh, but quoting is the same! Just use that!" It wasn't. It isn't. I never has been. Ever. Verbatim was introduced to replicate that lost + functionality, after massive outrage at the inability to find search results. The fact that you, and other Googlers still think "" is the same as verbatim/+, when it doesn't even show the same search results, is highly, highly questionable. To be beyond blunt, you're wrong. You are completely and totally wrong. +/verbatim and "" are not the same thing. Please go away, and learn how your own product works, before commenting on it, ok?
      - dannysullivan 5y ago
        I'm pretty familiar with how the + operator used to work and why Google dropped it, having written about it at the time it happened (spoiler, I wasn't happy it was dropped): https://searchengineland.com/google-sunsets-search-operator-98189 https://searchengineland.com/google-sunsets-search-operator-... At the time, + was used to require that something be present. Quotes were used to require words appear in a particular order. You could do a search where you quoted a phrase, but that didn't necessarily require it to be present (as I recall). If you absolutely wanted the quoted phrase to be there, you had to quote and put a + in front of the quoted phrase. So yes, they were different things. When + was eliminated, quotes took its place. Quoting a single word was the same as when you used to + a word -- find the exact word. Quoting a phrase still meant find the phrase, but that also meant it was required to find the phrase. With +, then with quotes and with verbatim, it's about what you retrieve. Verbatim says get these words or words and only those words. Quoting says get these words and only those words (and only those words in a particular order, if you indicate that). Just like + used to mean get these words and only these words. The ranking of results might vary when you quote versus verbatim, but what you're asking to be retrieved is the same to us.
- dannysullivan 5y ago
  As for the quoting, it should work. And if you have an example where it's not, please let me know. Quoting is designed to exact match. It shouldn't produce synonym matches, correct misspellings, find content that's not on the page as we saw it when indexed (I think I did say one confusing part is that if there's punctuation, that gets dropped when matching).
- scim-knox-twox 5y ago
  > It immediately turns verbatim off. For everyone! I can confirm, one of the reasons I haven't used Google in several years.

b112 5y ago

What?! Have you tried this? It immediately turns verbatim off. For everyone! It's been like this forever. Years and years. Gaslighting won't help here! In terms of quotes, again, this does NOT work like +, like verbatim. If it did, then that term would absolutely show up, just as it is, in search results. Yet, over the years I've seen: - aliasing happen from within quotes (EG, bob -> robert) - quotes entirely ignored (eg, those terms NOT showing up) Yet searching with verbatim on, immediately causes those quoted words to appear! You are absolutely gaslighting people on this! Right now, in this thread. And if it isn't intentional, if you aren't gaslighting, then how can you not even notice that verbatim turns off, the second you select a date range? I want to say so much more here, but it's filled with such ... vitriol, that I think my terminal would melt.

aceazzameen 5y ago
I can confirm what bbarnett says about date ranges and verbatim. Turning on a date range toggles verbatim off. Turning on verbatim toggles the date range off. It's impossible to enable them both.
dannysullivan 5y ago
I'm not trying to gaslight anyone. And what would be the point? To say something works if it demonstrably doesn't work? Yes, I tried this for some of the presets before I replied. It worked. It still works. My sincere apologies for not specifically testing custom date range option as well. I should have; you are correct. That won't work. I'll pass it on to see if there's a way it can. My apologies again. If you need to do this another way, what I also said works. Do it in the search bar using the before/after command. Just quote all the words, and that's the same as verbatim.
- b112 5y ago
  That is absolutely not the same as verbatim, and you need to do some empirical tests on your end, before you state things like this. Take a look here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29424094 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29424094 It's like you're just spouting Google propaganda, without validating what you're saying. Just like with vertabim/date range, which has been a thing for close ot a decade, which Google has received endless reports about, this too does not do what you say. Your responses are akin to those canned responses one gets when you post a bad review. "So sorry, please contact us here at this email address.", which of course is all about impression, and results in nothing ever happening. This has been going on almost a decade, yet oh what, no, haha is your response.
  - b112 5y ago
    For additional clarity, quoting has always, always, always been different than +, and verbatim. When you(Google) removed +, so that 'google+ searches' could work without interference, quoting was already a thing, and people were just told by some airhead googler "Oh, but quoting is the same! Just use that!" It wasn't. It isn't. I never has been. Ever. Verbatim was introduced to replicate that lost + functionality, after massive outrage at the inability to find search results. The fact that you, and other Googlers still think "" is the same as verbatim/+, when it doesn't even show the same search results, is highly, highly questionable. To be beyond blunt, you're wrong. You are completely and totally wrong. +/verbatim and "" are not the same thing. Please go away, and learn how your own product works, before commenting on it, ok?
    - dannysullivan 5y ago
      I'm pretty familiar with how the + operator used to work and why Google dropped it, having written about it at the time it happened (spoiler, I wasn't happy it was dropped): https://searchengineland.com/google-sunsets-search-operator-98189 https://searchengineland.com/google-sunsets-search-operator-... At the time, + was used to require that something be present. Quotes were used to require words appear in a particular order. You could do a search where you quoted a phrase, but that didn't necessarily require it to be present (as I recall). If you absolutely wanted the quoted phrase to be there, you had to quote and put a + in front of the quoted phrase. So yes, they were different things. When + was eliminated, quotes took its place. Quoting a single word was the same as when you used to + a word -- find the exact word. Quoting a phrase still meant find the phrase, but that also meant it was required to find the phrase. With +, then with quotes and with verbatim, it's about what you retrieve. Verbatim says get these words or words and only those words. Quoting says get these words and only those words (and only those words in a particular order, if you indicate that). Just like + used to mean get these words and only these words. The ranking of results might vary when you quote versus verbatim, but what you're asking to be retrieved is the same to us.
dannysullivan 5y ago
As for the quoting, it should work. And if you have an example where it's not, please let me know. Quoting is designed to exact match. It shouldn't produce synonym matches, correct misspellings, find content that's not on the page as we saw it when indexed (I think I did say one confusing part is that if there's punctuation, that gets dropped when matching).
scim-knox-twox 5y ago
> It immediately turns verbatim off. For everyone! I can confirm, one of the reasons I haven't used Google in several years.