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Whoever we're referring to with "the right" in this discussion tried this before, and they got, in my opinion, bullied into conforming rather than people trying

by zo1 5y ago

Whoever we're referring to with "the right" in this discussion tried this before, and they got, in my opinion, bullied into conforming rather than people trying to bridge a divide. Now that the right wants to create "Safe spaces" free from "persecution" and discrimination, they're being told to not go into bubbles and why are "they" the ones that want to further the divide. If it wasn't so society-level sad, it'd be comical how the majority flip flops on issues when it suits them. Even your post, I'm sorry, smells of passive-aggressive condescension against these individuals.

azinman2 5y ago
Well if it does smell that way, certainly that wasn't my intention. If all you consumed was Fox News, I can understand why you might think certain ways. But keep in mind from the very beginning it's been about us versus them in terms of MAGA -- you're not hearing this from other political arenas in the same way. So it's not like they're being cast into a bubble by the left as you described. It's self-selection as asked for by their thought leaders. What I was trying to not be passive at all about was my disregard for the Trump/Carlson universe that is actively trying to create a variety of ways to split people at the societal level and funnel them into their own worlds. They're not the only ones to do so, but they're enjoying great success at achieving this by the millions. There is no force that's doing this in terms of actively dividing people... the only other equivalent might be 'cancel culture' that's trying to do it with thoughts, but at least that's aimed at the individual issues rather than who you vote for. A huge component of Fox News is telling you that the 'mainstream media' is lying to you so don't bother listening to them (never mind they're actually the biggest mainstream media source by audience size). Trump will tell you everyone that isn't for him is lying and creating hoaxes so don't listen to them either. Now they're trying to create their own Twitter, dating apps, etc. It's slowly partitioning the world by ideology conformance down to literally who you date from the start. People already self-select enough (homophily is a strong force) -- to lubricate that for political gain will only lead to destruction.
- zo1 5y ago
  I don't watch Fox or Tucker Carlson. I am however, watching in real time as my opinions are sidelined because they don't fit an accepted or prevailing narrative. Constantly being told that my opinions are hateful while I can see the world ignoring and actively rationalizing actual bad things like racial injustice and legalized discrimination against my group.
  - azinman2 5y ago
    What does that have to do with creating an ideological dating app?
- insickness 5y ago
  While both sides contribute to this divide, liberals contribute more. Liberals are far more likely to discriminate against conservatives in dating: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/24/most-democrats-who-are-looking-for-a-relationship-would-not-consider-dating-a-trump-voter/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/24/most-democr...
  - locopati 5y ago

by zo1 5y ago

azinman2 5y ago

Well if it does smell that way, certainly that wasn't my intention. If all you consumed was Fox News, I can understand why you might think certain ways. But keep in mind from the very beginning it's been about us versus them in terms of MAGA -- you're not hearing this from other political arenas in the same way. So it's not like they're being cast into a bubble by the left as you described. It's self-selection as asked for by their thought leaders. What I was trying to not be passive at all about was my disregard for the Trump/Carlson universe that is actively trying to create a variety of ways to split people at the societal level and funnel them into their own worlds. They're not the only ones to do so, but they're enjoying great success at achieving this by the millions. There is no force that's doing this in terms of actively dividing people... the only other equivalent might be 'cancel culture' that's trying to do it with thoughts, but at least that's aimed at the individual issues rather than who you vote for. A huge component of Fox News is telling you that the 'mainstream media' is lying to you so don't bother listening to them (never mind they're actually the biggest mainstream media source by audience size). Trump will tell you everyone that isn't for him is lying and creating hoaxes so don't listen to them either. Now they're trying to create their own Twitter, dating apps, etc. It's slowly partitioning the world by ideology conformance down to literally who you date from the start. People already self-select enough (homophily is a strong force) -- to lubricate that for political gain will only lead to destruction.

zo1 5y ago
I don't watch Fox or Tucker Carlson. I am however, watching in real time as my opinions are sidelined because they don't fit an accepted or prevailing narrative. Constantly being told that my opinions are hateful while I can see the world ignoring and actively rationalizing actual bad things like racial injustice and legalized discrimination against my group.
- azinman2 5y ago
  What does that have to do with creating an ideological dating app?
insickness 5y ago
While both sides contribute to this divide, liberals contribute more. Liberals are far more likely to discriminate against conservatives in dating: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/24/most-democrats-who-are-looking-for-a-relationship-would-not-consider-dating-a-trump-voter/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/24/most-democr...
- locopati 5y ago