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You're completely right. It's toxic everywhere. BUT just because it's toxic everywhere doesn't make it so you get to call HN the "pinnacle of non-toxicity." It

You're completely right. It's toxic everywhere. BUT just because it's toxic everywhere doesn't make it so you get to call HN the "pinnacle of non-toxicity." It's like saying the least toxic venom on the planet is the pinnacle of non-toxicity... I mean it's still venom. It's also worth talking about the toxicity on HN because it follows very specific patterns. It's also essentially a dictatorship. Whatever Dang says goes.

fuzzfactor 5y ago
I would say there's a big difference between a dictatorship and leadership with authority. One makes things worse and the other makes things better. Regardless of whatever they say goes where.
- deltaonefour 5y ago
  Yes there is a difference and despite that difference it's still a dictatorship. The thing is, whatever Dang says goes. That's the definition of dictatorship. I think you just agree with him. Dang is a dictator whose policies you agree with, but ultimately you have no say in anything.
  - fuzzfactor 5y ago
    No, I do not always agree with the moderators or their entire approach. I do recognize this is nothing like a democracy, and the less like a democracy the more you have no say in anything. But it still ends up a better place so that's what counts to me, and I highly appreciate the effort that goes in and the creativity seen when difficult things are handled way better than could be expected otherwise.
    - deltaonefour 5y ago
      >But it still ends up a better place so that's what counts to me, and I highly appreciate the effort that goes in and the creativity seen when difficult things are handled way better than could be expected otherwise. So you don't agree, but you feel despite your disagreement it makes HN a better place. So in a sense, you agree that his decisions are for the better. Ultimately you didn't contradict anything I said. It is a dictatorship. You just agree with the outcome of his policies. We can caveat that with the fact you may not agree with individual policies but you agree with the overall outcome.
fivea 5y ago
> It's like saying the least toxic venom on the planet is the pinnacle of non-toxicity... I mean it's still venom. If all you see is toxicity, wherever you look around, then perhaps that warrants some introspection and a review of your personal definition of toxicity. Odds are you're picking way too many false positives.
- deltaonefour 5y ago
  I'm responding to someone else who mentioned that toxicity is everywhere. Please address the overall topic, instead of making a personal remark about me. Thanks!

fuzzfactor 5y ago

I would say there's a big difference between a dictatorship and leadership with authority. One makes things worse and the other makes things better. Regardless of whatever they say goes where.

deltaonefour 5y ago
Yes there is a difference and despite that difference it's still a dictatorship. The thing is, whatever Dang says goes. That's the definition of dictatorship. I think you just agree with him. Dang is a dictator whose policies you agree with, but ultimately you have no say in anything.
- fuzzfactor 5y ago
  No, I do not always agree with the moderators or their entire approach. I do recognize this is nothing like a democracy, and the less like a democracy the more you have no say in anything. But it still ends up a better place so that's what counts to me, and I highly appreciate the effort that goes in and the creativity seen when difficult things are handled way better than could be expected otherwise.
  - deltaonefour 5y ago
    >But it still ends up a better place so that's what counts to me, and I highly appreciate the effort that goes in and the creativity seen when difficult things are handled way better than could be expected otherwise. So you don't agree, but you feel despite your disagreement it makes HN a better place. So in a sense, you agree that his decisions are for the better. Ultimately you didn't contradict anything I said. It is a dictatorship. You just agree with the outcome of his policies. We can caveat that with the fact you may not agree with individual policies but you agree with the overall outcome.

fivea 5y ago

> It's like saying the least toxic venom on the planet is the pinnacle of non-toxicity... I mean it's still venom. If all you see is toxicity, wherever you look around, then perhaps that warrants some introspection and a review of your personal definition of toxicity. Odds are you're picking way too many false positives.

deltaonefour 5y ago
I'm responding to someone else who mentioned that toxicity is everywhere. Please address the overall topic, instead of making a personal remark about me. Thanks!