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>In terms of status, a white man can get better results if they date another woman of a different class and race then they would if they dated some women of the

>In terms of status, a white man can get better results if they date another woman of a different class and race then they would if they dated some women of the same race and status. Asians are indisputably higher earners in US than white, on average. If anything it would make more sense that people view it that someone from an Asian country such as my wife married down and not up, if we're viewing through the race lenses you are viewing things through.

deltaonefour 5y ago
>Asians are indisputably higher earners in US than white, on average. This is true but it is not the factored into the subconscious hierarchy. Globally and locally White people are viewed as the top. Additionally, you should realize that the average income for asians here is highly skewed by a few top earners.
- heartbeats 5y ago
  As opposed to white people, which have no billionaires?
  - deltaonefour 5y ago
    There are more white billionaires in the US than asian billionaires. The skew isn't caused by the top 1%. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/07/12/income-inequality-in-the-u-s-is-rising-most-rapidly-among-asians/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/07/12/income-... Income inequality among asians is the greatest of any race.
FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
Factoid: The richest kind of heterosexual household in the US, on average, is Asian man, white woman.
- notch656a 5y ago
  Shockingly, I found the same study, and you are correct. Factoid: the second richest kind of heterosexual household in the US, on average, is Asian woman, white man. Interestingly, Asian-Asian and White-White lag significantly behind both. Almost paradoxically, from a purely financial outcome perspective a white man is expected to be better off marrying an asian woman, while an asian man is expected to be better off marrying a white woman. I didn't realize there was a pair like that where both male and female are statistically better off financially marrying the complement, but it seems white/asian pair is the winning combination for maximum expected income?
  - deltaonefour 5y ago
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    - notch656a 5y ago
      >Highly doubt these averages indicate causation. More likely these pairs formed because the women are choosing men with certain financial attributes. Either way correlation doesn't indicate causation, and I believe you are mistakenly assuming such a connection. I think you are mistaken about what 'expected' means. Expected value doesn't imply causation [0]. Sorry for not being more clear here, I was using the word as it's used in probability theory. Since there is no weighting here, expected basically means average, not some causative assertion. >white women will only choose an Asian who's so financially well off that race no longer matters This is just straight up racist. You can say what white woman will do on average or what white woman is expected to do, but you can't possibly know white women will 'only' choose an Asian when they're financially well off. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value
      - deltaonefour 5y ago

deltaonefour 5y ago

>Asians are indisputably higher earners in US than white, on average. This is true but it is not the factored into the subconscious hierarchy. Globally and locally White people are viewed as the top. Additionally, you should realize that the average income for asians here is highly skewed by a few top earners.

heartbeats 5y ago
As opposed to white people, which have no billionaires?
- deltaonefour 5y ago
  There are more white billionaires in the US than asian billionaires. The skew isn't caused by the top 1%. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/07/12/income-inequality-in-the-u-s-is-rising-most-rapidly-among-asians/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/07/12/income-... Income inequality among asians is the greatest of any race.

FooBarBizBazz 5y ago

Factoid: The richest kind of heterosexual household in the US, on average, is Asian man, white woman.

notch656a 5y ago
Shockingly, I found the same study, and you are correct. Factoid: the second richest kind of heterosexual household in the US, on average, is Asian woman, white man. Interestingly, Asian-Asian and White-White lag significantly behind both. Almost paradoxically, from a purely financial outcome perspective a white man is expected to be better off marrying an asian woman, while an asian man is expected to be better off marrying a white woman. I didn't realize there was a pair like that where both male and female are statistically better off financially marrying the complement, but it seems white/asian pair is the winning combination for maximum expected income?
- deltaonefour 5y ago
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  - notch656a 5y ago
    >Highly doubt these averages indicate causation. More likely these pairs formed because the women are choosing men with certain financial attributes. Either way correlation doesn't indicate causation, and I believe you are mistakenly assuming such a connection. I think you are mistaken about what 'expected' means. Expected value doesn't imply causation [0]. Sorry for not being more clear here, I was using the word as it's used in probability theory. Since there is no weighting here, expected basically means average, not some causative assertion. >white women will only choose an Asian who's so financially well off that race no longer matters This is just straight up racist. You can say what white woman will do on average or what white woman is expected to do, but you can't possibly know white women will 'only' choose an Asian when they're financially well off. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value
    - deltaonefour 5y ago