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That's like speaking to little children, that are learning to talk, reproducing their errors. Some adults believe that it's cute, but it's idiotic, confuses the

by narag 5y ago

That's like speaking to little children, that are learning to talk, reproducing their errors. Some adults believe that it's cute, but it's idiotic, confuses the babies and make their progress more difficult and slow.

recursive 5y ago
It's not idiotic if it's what the people (generally) want.
- dylan604 5y ago
  You think the baby really wants to hear googoo gaagaa? Now, they are trying to say "I'm hungry. Feed me!" Babies must look at adults doing the googoo gaagaa, and think to themselves that these adults are absolute morons. The sites that Googs returns are basically the internet's version of googoo gaagaa. I look at the websites returned, and often think that the site's owners must be morons. Useless drivel clearly designed to game the Goog search results. I think think about how moronic it is that Googs allows this.
  - recursive 5y ago
    "Googoo gaagaa" sounds like happy baby babble to me. Mine would more like "waaaaaaaAAAAaahhh" when they were hungry. Congratulations on recognizing the true morons.
    - kuboble 5y ago
      In my experience waaaaaaaAAAAaahhh meant wet diaper or something hurts. Leeeeeah, leeeaaaahhh was being hungry. Phonetically is similar to the beginning of a polish word mleko (milk)
  - narag 5y ago
    You think the baby really wants to hear googoo gaagaa? Now, they are trying to say "I'm hungry. Feed me!" I suspect they know the sound they want to make but they don't know how to articulate it. They make an approximation and we can encourage them repeating the correct version, so they realize we understood what they're trying to do: "you're half way" but repeating their approximation is misleading.
    - iainmerrick 5y ago
      Most people don’t literally say “goo goo ga ga” to babies; what they actually do is echo babies’ nonsense sounds back at them. I subscribe to the theory that this helps babies understand what they sound like, and therefore helps them learn how to produce the sounds they want.
iainmerrick 5y ago
I don’t think this means anything for the point you wanted to make about search results, but please note you’re exactly wrong about baby talk! It’s not a good analogy. Baby talk (or CDS, child-directed speech) helps engage their attention and provides valuable feedback. Kids who experience less CDS develop language more slowly. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_talk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_talk (I heard about this research a number of years ago. Although I must admit, now I wonder if it’s affected by the science reproducibility crisis!)
- brimble 5y ago
  N = 3, we intentionally never baby talked to our kids, and spent a lot more time reading them novels and other things without pictures or simplified language than (I'd guess) most people do (we did also do plenty of picture books), and their language development was in all three cases way ahead of schedule. Could just be luck (well, genetics, probably) I guess. Maybe they'd have developed even faster if we'd used baby talk. One shitty thing about parenting is it's really hard to tell what helped, what hurt, and what didn't matter at all.
  - erosenbe0 5y ago
    It's not genetics or a language strategy, just engagement. Compare a toddler living in a ghetto concrete jungle to one who takes daily strolls through Central Park or Suburbia. The enrichment of parents teaching about the trucks and the trees and the lady with a purple hat pays massive returns.
  - nsxwolf 5y ago
    Yeah, I'm not capable of baby talk. Too weird. I have always talked to my kids like they were adults. They seem fine.
    - flatiron 5y ago
      I did goo goo gaa gaa for the first 6-8 months since you can tell there’s really nobody home up there yet and it’s cute and engaged my other kids to play with the youngest. But yes. Mine seem fine as well so I doubt CDS is going to make/break a human being.
cptaj 5y ago
I think this has proven to be false. Fathers descend to "baby talk" when the child is learning and slowly bring them up to par instead of trying to just force perfect talk from the start. They do this instinctively. There's some great comments on this from salman khan, I think. He recorded the first years of his kid's life at home and documented this phenomenon

by narag 5y ago

recursive 5y ago

It's not idiotic if it's what the people (generally) want.

dylan604 5y ago
You think the baby really wants to hear googoo gaagaa? Now, they are trying to say "I'm hungry. Feed me!" Babies must look at adults doing the googoo gaagaa, and think to themselves that these adults are absolute morons. The sites that Googs returns are basically the internet's version of googoo gaagaa. I look at the websites returned, and often think that the site's owners must be morons. Useless drivel clearly designed to game the Goog search results. I think think about how moronic it is that Googs allows this.
- recursive 5y ago
  "Googoo gaagaa" sounds like happy baby babble to me. Mine would more like "waaaaaaaAAAAaahhh" when they were hungry. Congratulations on recognizing the true morons.
  - kuboble 5y ago
    In my experience waaaaaaaAAAAaahhh meant wet diaper or something hurts. Leeeeeah, leeeaaaahhh was being hungry. Phonetically is similar to the beginning of a polish word mleko (milk)
- narag 5y ago
  You think the baby really wants to hear googoo gaagaa? Now, they are trying to say "I'm hungry. Feed me!" I suspect they know the sound they want to make but they don't know how to articulate it. They make an approximation and we can encourage them repeating the correct version, so they realize we understood what they're trying to do: "you're half way" but repeating their approximation is misleading.
  - iainmerrick 5y ago
    Most people don’t literally say “goo goo ga ga” to babies; what they actually do is echo babies’ nonsense sounds back at them. I subscribe to the theory that this helps babies understand what they sound like, and therefore helps them learn how to produce the sounds they want.

iainmerrick 5y ago

I don’t think this means anything for the point you wanted to make about search results, but please note you’re exactly wrong about baby talk! It’s not a good analogy. Baby talk (or CDS, child-directed speech) helps engage their attention and provides valuable feedback. Kids who experience less CDS develop language more slowly. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_talk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_talk (I heard about this research a number of years ago. Although I must admit, now I wonder if it’s affected by the science reproducibility crisis!)

brimble 5y ago
N = 3, we intentionally never baby talked to our kids, and spent a lot more time reading them novels and other things without pictures or simplified language than (I'd guess) most people do (we did also do plenty of picture books), and their language development was in all three cases way ahead of schedule. Could just be luck (well, genetics, probably) I guess. Maybe they'd have developed even faster if we'd used baby talk. One shitty thing about parenting is it's really hard to tell what helped, what hurt, and what didn't matter at all.
- erosenbe0 5y ago
  It's not genetics or a language strategy, just engagement. Compare a toddler living in a ghetto concrete jungle to one who takes daily strolls through Central Park or Suburbia. The enrichment of parents teaching about the trucks and the trees and the lady with a purple hat pays massive returns.
- nsxwolf 5y ago
  Yeah, I'm not capable of baby talk. Too weird. I have always talked to my kids like they were adults. They seem fine.
  - flatiron 5y ago
    I did goo goo gaa gaa for the first 6-8 months since you can tell there’s really nobody home up there yet and it’s cute and engaged my other kids to play with the youngest. But yes. Mine seem fine as well so I doubt CDS is going to make/break a human being.

cptaj 5y ago

I think this has proven to be false. Fathers descend to "baby talk" when the child is learning and slowly bring them up to par instead of trying to just force perfect talk from the start. They do this instinctively. There's some great comments on this from salman khan, I think. He recorded the first years of his kid's life at home and documented this phenomenon