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I'd say the more important part is a baseline of stability. I went through two evictions by the time I was 19, and I ultimately had to estrange myself from my f

I'd say the more important part is a baseline of stability. I went through two evictions by the time I was 19, and I ultimately had to estrange myself from my family to avoid getting evicted for a third time. I'm very happy with my current level of success. I've made 6 figures for a good amount of time and have more than enough saved to take a long vacation. I can't stress enough how important it is to cut out toxic people. Hell a big part of why I left LA is just how lame folks are. The typical personal I went out with in LA was around 30 , and simply didn't want to work. Bad things happen when your around people like this. The moment I moved to Chicago, I was dating a beautiful, amazing career- driven girl. More than worth moving for. If you date someone who doesn't want to work your life will be very very hard. I've met a good amount of people from privileged backgrounds ( for me this means you've never been evicted) who squandered their privilege. For ever rich kid that started a million dollar company, another 2 sat around all day doing nothing. These tend to be the most entitled people on earth. If you work at the local pet store cleaning up animal droppings I have way more respect for you then if you live off a trust fund. Keep in mind alot of lifestyle gurus fit the trust fund kid stereotype. Mark Manson comes to mind, because of family wealth he's never had to work. Then he made millions writing a book about not needing to worry about anything.

notacoward 5y ago
> I'd say the more important part is a baseline of stability. Hear, hear. I'm pretty sure I've seen studies that show the initial situation most likely to yield later success is the upper-middle class. Rich enough to have some resources and the stability you mention, but not so rich that "the pressure's off" and one is tempted to just rest on parents' laurels. I think stability is also part of the argument for UBI (or similar). The burdens and instability associated with poverty are drags on the whole economy. Free people from those, and they're better able to contribute back to the economy as both producers and consumers. Unfortunately, too many people would rather limit their own prosperity as long as they can limit someone else's even more, either because they don't understand how the system works or due to a nasty quirk of human nature.
- 999900000999 5y ago
  I'd be happy to just get rid of the FASA system which assumes family stability. A good friend of mine has to estrange herself from her family since they were extremely abusive. If someone is mistreating you,the only real option is to leave. But in America you basically can't get college aid if you don't talk to your parents until your 24. We should give everyone aid for college regardless of income. Hell, this would even help intact middle class families. Just because your household income is 200k doesn't mean you have a spare 30k per child to attend college. These middle class households are taxed to pay for everyone's else's education anyway.
  - notacoward 5y ago
    I fell into exactly one of those traps because financial aid was predicated on a parental contribution that was not really possible (because my mother had to spend that money on her own uncovered medical expenses). I know many others who have also been denied the aid they needed, and no few who received aid they didn't need. Basically every system in the US - not just education and health care but also housing, transportation, 90% of the legal system, etc. - is set up to create an interlocking set of burdens and traps for those who don't already have the means to rise above them.
    - 999900000999 5y ago
      Same here, I ended up dropping out of college at 22 and by the time I came back to finish I was making six figures. I don't really think a lot of these systems are intentionally malicious, But they assume a very specific type of family structure. If you don't have stable parents, even just tracking them down to ask him to fill out a FAFSA can be impossible. We have the money as a society, if you do something stupid, they'll find $70,000 a year to lock you up.

notacoward 5y ago

> I'd say the more important part is a baseline of stability. Hear, hear. I'm pretty sure I've seen studies that show the initial situation most likely to yield later success is the upper-middle class. Rich enough to have some resources and the stability you mention, but not so rich that "the pressure's off" and one is tempted to just rest on parents' laurels. I think stability is also part of the argument for UBI (or similar). The burdens and instability associated with poverty are drags on the whole economy. Free people from those, and they're better able to contribute back to the economy as both producers and consumers. Unfortunately, too many people would rather limit their own prosperity as long as they can limit someone else's even more, either because they don't understand how the system works or due to a nasty quirk of human nature.

999900000999 5y ago
I'd be happy to just get rid of the FASA system which assumes family stability. A good friend of mine has to estrange herself from her family since they were extremely abusive. If someone is mistreating you,the only real option is to leave. But in America you basically can't get college aid if you don't talk to your parents until your 24. We should give everyone aid for college regardless of income. Hell, this would even help intact middle class families. Just because your household income is 200k doesn't mean you have a spare 30k per child to attend college. These middle class households are taxed to pay for everyone's else's education anyway.
- notacoward 5y ago
  I fell into exactly one of those traps because financial aid was predicated on a parental contribution that was not really possible (because my mother had to spend that money on her own uncovered medical expenses). I know many others who have also been denied the aid they needed, and no few who received aid they didn't need. Basically every system in the US - not just education and health care but also housing, transportation, 90% of the legal system, etc. - is set up to create an interlocking set of burdens and traps for those who don't already have the means to rise above them.
  - 999900000999 5y ago
    Same here, I ended up dropping out of college at 22 and by the time I came back to finish I was making six figures. I don't really think a lot of these systems are intentionally malicious, But they assume a very specific type of family structure. If you don't have stable parents, even just tracking them down to ask him to fill out a FAFSA can be impossible. We have the money as a society, if you do something stupid, they'll find $70,000 a year to lock you up.