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All rocket technology is based on German WWII rocket technology.

by hungryforcodes 5y ago

dnautics 5y ago
Well not Goddard's work. Probably solid rockets have a different lineage, too.
- hungryforcodes 5y ago
  Braun definitely was.
- StillBored 5y ago
  Ah, and a tourism tip for the serious engineer/nerd/machinist. If you ever find yourself in Roswell, after enjoying the alien museum or when you get tired of the "crowds", walk a couple blocks north to the quiet little Roswell art museum. Buy a ticket and ask where the Goddard exhibition is. I was blown away! They have what appears to be most of his actual workshop on exhibition in a recreated workshop, as well as a number of his rockets (well a lot of pieces and a couple never flown/incomplete ones). Plus, loads of the usual pictures/documents/etc you would expect of a museum. I spent at least an hour standing in that workshop looking at the different tools he was using to build his rockets. Its crazy cool, and pretty much no one knows about it because "Art museum". https://roswell-nm.gov/1259/Roswell-Museum https://roswell-nm.gov/1259/Roswell-Museum (ah and here is a link to the gallery description: https://roswell-nm.gov/348/Robert-H-Goddard-Dreamer-Tinkerer-Pionee https://roswell-nm.gov/348/Robert-H-Goddard-Dreamer-Tinkerer... )
  - dnautics 5y ago
    Damn I passed through Roswell three times and never knew about it!
adolph 5y ago
The date reporting the first use of true rockets was in 1232. At this time, the Chinese and the Mongols were at war with each other. During the battle of Kai-Keng, the Chinese repelled the Mongol invaders by a barrage of "arrows of flying fire." These fire-arrows were a simple form of a solid-propellant rocket. https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/TRC/Rockets/history_of_rockets.html https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/TRC/Rockets/history_of_roc... But to your point the turbopump was a key contribution of the Nazis: In mid-1935 Wernher von Braun initiated a fuel pump project at the southwest German firm Klein, Schanzlin & Becker that was experienced in building large fire-fighting pumps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbopump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbopump
TMWNN 5y ago
>All rocket technology is based on German WWII rocket technology. No. While von Braun and other German engineers received a lot of attention, his team at Army Ballistic Missile Agency (ABMA) was one of three competing US efforts to launch a satellite in the late 1950s. The Navy's Project Vanguard was the second to launch a US satellite (and would have been the first had its December 1957 attempt succeeded). The formation of NASA brought the three efforts together; Project Mercury used ABMA's Redstone and Air Force's Atlas rockets. The Soviets took German scientists, too, but returned them to Germany in the 1950s. Sergei Korolev and other Chief Designers of the various USSR rocket-design bureaus (which, unlike NASA, did not come and continued competing against each other) were all native Soviets.
- bogomipz 5y ago
  >"The Soviets took German scientists, too, but returned them to Germany in the 1950s." Interesting. Could you elaborate on this? Was there a specific incident or reason why Russia "returned them to Germany"?
  - TMWNN 5y ago
    Basically, the Soviets squeezed all they could out of them and didn't need them any more. They were very, very helpful—much more than the USSR liked to acknowledge—to the early Soviet rocket program, but even with their help, Russia had something like only four ICBMs capable of reaching the US during the "Missile Gap" that JFK in part won the presidency in 1960 over.

All rocket technology is based on German WWII rocket technology.

dnautics 5y ago

Well not Goddard's work. Probably solid rockets have a different lineage, too.

hungryforcodes 5y ago
Braun definitely was.
StillBored 5y ago
Ah, and a tourism tip for the serious engineer/nerd/machinist. If you ever find yourself in Roswell, after enjoying the alien museum or when you get tired of the "crowds", walk a couple blocks north to the quiet little Roswell art museum. Buy a ticket and ask where the Goddard exhibition is. I was blown away! They have what appears to be most of his actual workshop on exhibition in a recreated workshop, as well as a number of his rockets (well a lot of pieces and a couple never flown/incomplete ones). Plus, loads of the usual pictures/documents/etc you would expect of a museum. I spent at least an hour standing in that workshop looking at the different tools he was using to build his rockets. Its crazy cool, and pretty much no one knows about it because "Art museum". https://roswell-nm.gov/1259/Roswell-Museum https://roswell-nm.gov/1259/Roswell-Museum (ah and here is a link to the gallery description: https://roswell-nm.gov/348/Robert-H-Goddard-Dreamer-Tinkerer-Pionee https://roswell-nm.gov/348/Robert-H-Goddard-Dreamer-Tinkerer... )
- dnautics 5y ago
  Damn I passed through Roswell three times and never knew about it!

adolph 5y ago

The date reporting the first use of true rockets was in 1232. At this time, the Chinese and the Mongols were at war with each other. During the battle of Kai-Keng, the Chinese repelled the Mongol invaders by a barrage of "arrows of flying fire." These fire-arrows were a simple form of a solid-propellant rocket. https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/TRC/Rockets/history_of_rockets.html https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/TRC/Rockets/history_of_roc... But to your point the turbopump was a key contribution of the Nazis: In mid-1935 Wernher von Braun initiated a fuel pump project at the southwest German firm Klein, Schanzlin & Becker that was experienced in building large fire-fighting pumps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbopump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbopump

TMWNN 5y ago

>All rocket technology is based on German WWII rocket technology. No. While von Braun and other German engineers received a lot of attention, his team at Army Ballistic Missile Agency (ABMA) was one of three competing US efforts to launch a satellite in the late 1950s. The Navy's Project Vanguard was the second to launch a US satellite (and would have been the first had its December 1957 attempt succeeded). The formation of NASA brought the three efforts together; Project Mercury used ABMA's Redstone and Air Force's Atlas rockets. The Soviets took German scientists, too, but returned them to Germany in the 1950s. Sergei Korolev and other Chief Designers of the various USSR rocket-design bureaus (which, unlike NASA, did not come and continued competing against each other) were all native Soviets.

bogomipz 5y ago
>"The Soviets took German scientists, too, but returned them to Germany in the 1950s." Interesting. Could you elaborate on this? Was there a specific incident or reason why Russia "returned them to Germany"?
- TMWNN 5y ago
  Basically, the Soviets squeezed all they could out of them and didn't need them any more. They were very, very helpful—much more than the USSR liked to acknowledge—to the early Soviet rocket program, but even with their help, Russia had something like only four ICBMs capable of reaching the US during the "Missile Gap" that JFK in part won the presidency in 1960 over.